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o-grips for epic?

Caleb Heymann

Caleb Heymann

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I'm considering ordering the OConnor O-grips for handheld work with the Epic. Although I don't have the OConnor matte box, I like the versatility of these grips, and that they can be top mounted for low mode shots. From what I've heard, the rubber on the grips is very comfortable.

What I'm worried about is weight. Apparently they are quite heavy. And as the Epic already has the potential to get quite front heavy, depending on the setup, that could be a problem. I just thought I'd see if anyone has experience with O-grips on Epic and could weigh in.
 
They're very strong and well made, but I do find them a little heavy for the Epic if your goal is a lightweight rig or a balanced shoulder setup.
 
Theyy are a turiffic chouce

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thanks all for the responses.

@Alex, thanks for the link to the Spidergrips, this looks like the solution for me

@Michael, thanks for sharing the pics. That is great that you can mount the Ogrips to the Swat rails. Is that a Swat to Rosette bracket?

@Lee, As for the Letus grips, I don't believe they really work out significantly cheaper than the O'Connors when you consider the packages
 
Thanks, Bob. I ended up going with the Spidergrips from Camera Accessory Solutions. Lightweight, good price, 19mm and LW 15mm support, and they even fold up nicely for travel
 
Lee Saxon said:
http://letusdslr.com/grips/

Who ripped off whom
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The term "rip-off" seems to get thrown around a bit hastily of late. Suffice it to say:

1) The O-Grip was earlier on the market.

2) A ball-joint is a ball-joint... the OConnor innovation is in the clamping mechanism. If someone had copied the insides, I guess that would have been a rip-off. Which leads us to...


and more importantly what do I get for the extra cost of the Ocon version?
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2.8 times the payload capacity and 35% LESS weight. Again, thanks to the OConnor clamping mechanism. In addition, O-Grips also have true locking keyways, and much more massive mounting stems.

Rosette-joints and ball-joints do different things and result in different products. Some operators just really want (above all else) to be able to adjust a grip quickly one-handed, and that's who we built O-Grips for. Rosette fans had and have plenty to choose from anyway. Variety is good.

http://www.ocon.com/labs/labs-o-grips.html
 
Jim, as an owner of both the ogrips and the Epic, I'd love to see an ogrip accessory that has that unique 3/8" grooved socket thingie that ogrips like to connect to, but then terminates in a 1/4" male so I could put that anywhere on my Epic.
 
Big diffrents between o'grips and others are amount of weight (about 20kg) they can handle. This make it far more than just side bars, but one of the most versital piece of grip. You can use it in car rigs, lighting rigs a side from the use of in camera rigs.
 
Shawn Nelson said:
Jim, as an owner of both the ogrips and the Epic, I'd love to see an ogrip accessory that has that unique 3/8" grooved socket thingie that ogrips like to connect to, but then terminates in a 1/4" male so I could put that anywhere on my Epic.
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Shawn, I hear you but I'd be nervous that the cross-section of a 1/4" bolt wouldn't be beefy enough to really be safe as the primary connection. The rail adapter that Michael K. came up with looks a lot safer. Will write you.
 
Jim Elias said:
Shawn, I hear you but I'd be nervous that the cross-section of a 1/4" bolt wouldn't be beefy enough to really be safe as the primary connection. The rail adapter that Michael K. came up with looks a lot safer. Will write you.
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Sounds good, looking forward to your email
 
Lee Saxon said:
O-Grip website says 44 lbs

Letus website says "well over" (whatever that means) 50 lbs
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In this case, the load is actually a torque load; force times distance from ball center. As you increase the distance, the lever arm takes over and the carryable payload thus goes down in weight, but the maximum torque load always remains the same.

We say 44 lbs assuming a usable distance allowing for a second grip or other extension -- 175mm or 7", to be exact. According to our tests, our competitor will carry 15.8 lbs at that distance.

So if the competing product were loaded with 50 lbs, it would only be able to carry it up to a distance of 2.2" (55.5mm) from the ball center. We would be still be able to carry 50 lbs at a distance of 6.1" (154.7mm).

I guess we could say we have a payload of 138 lbs. (see below) if we wanted to compare apples with apples, but of what practical use would that be?



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I've got the ogrips and just spent a month shooting a doco around the world with a double set for shoulder mount rig. They are a bit on the heavy side, but for me their flexibility outweighs that. The only gripe I have is the lack of QC on the accessories. I had to tap the 3/8" holes in the ogrip rail mount, and sand down the eyebrow mount plastic bushings on the obox which were too tight to turn as delivered. Otherwise, love the OConnor stuff
 
Lee Saxon said:
Very interesting stuff, thanks for the detailed response.

Random question : any idea where I can get your Rosette adapter? Not finding it on B&H or Abel
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Lee, shoot me a line with your email info and we'll take care of it.
 
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