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Nikon "G" 1.4 primes, a mini review...

James Brundige said:
Sorry to clutter this good thread with attempt at political joke. Lots of smart people from Texas, most of them (Larry included) with a sense of humor. I was referring to only one person from Texas with a small brain.

ps I gotta hat, too.
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:smile5:James, not a problem at all... but just to set the record straight, The Yalie Bush, it seems had a higher IQ than fellow "Bonesman" John Kerry. This was pointed out in an interview with Kerry during the 2004 Presidential campaign by Tom Brokaw and was based on IQ tests found in each man's military 201 file. The reason Brokaw brought it up was because Kerry had previously made the statement (within earshot of a microphone) something to the effect that "he couldn't understand how such a dumbass ever got to be President in the first place. Bush apparently had an innate sense that told him to let the other person underestimate you in order to win the day.

Nothing political here... just setting the record straight.:patriot:

"Bonesman" link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones
 
Julio Quintana said:
Oh man. If ANY still lens manufacturer would produce those focal lengths at f1.4, it would be very difficult for me to justify buying cinema glass for the DSMC cameras.
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I'm with you. I know I'm dreaming but to me the Epic is crying out for compact lenses. And a fast wide would be horn. As you say, when on the longer end you can always shimmy your lights in and the DoF is already tight so I often want to stop down anyway for focus.
 
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TO GET BACK ON TOPIC (please)

Evin, Thank you for this review. I've been considering these new primes for a while. I too am a fan of Nikon glass. I once did a side-by-side with a Zeiss ZF 85mm 1.4 and a Nikkor AIS 85mm 1.4 and sent the Zeiss back because of that creamy bokeh you mentioned. There truly is more to a lens than sharpness alone. I'll never have experience with the range of lenses that you have, but I love the way you describe lenses. I think our tastes run to similar looks. Your take on these Nikkors is just what I needed to put them on my "must have" list. Thank you.
 
I am thinking I will sell my Canons and begin build a Nikon-G prime set. I am very optimistic about the RedMote Pro. Just look at Birger. The thing works! I have no doubt Nikons will work perfectly, of course the reversal has no impact, just the motors' action.

Evin nailed it:
14-24mm
24mm
35mm
50mm
85mm

Add a macro-telephoto, or two lenses to fill in those gaps... and presto!

Can't wait to see the electronic mounts to ship.
 
Yup. Looking around for a Nikon-EOS adaptor ring that supports both G lenses and Canon focus confirm (old eyes).
 
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I got this Novoflex one with the "G" iris ring. Works like a charm on a 5D.
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/724050-REG/Novoflex_EOSNIK_NT_EOS_NIK_NT_Lens_Adapter_for.html
 
I don't get it. I'm sure these G Nikon lenses are optically great. But this is a cinema forum since REDs are cinema cameras.

Won't these G lenses have limited use on a RED since they don't have the cine mechanics? Maybe useful just for Interviews, EPK, ???
I would buy them in a sec if they had excellent mechanics and marks.
 
Many of us are used to doing things the way they have been done for decades. And those methods have been adopted because they work. With the electronic mount, REDMOTE Pro, touch to focus, and face recognition, Epic may offer possibilities many of us have never considered. The electronic tools may not work very well. But, if they do, we may see these cameras being used in ways that would not be possible the way we have always worked up to this point. So, while these new lenses don't have a traditional cine lens build quality or marks, it just might not matter that much when the Epic is fully functional. Time will tell.
 
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Jason Rudd said:
I don't get it. I'm sure these G Nikon lenses are optically great. But this is a cinema forum since REDs are cinema cameras.

Won't these G lenses have limited use on a RED since they don't have the cine mechanics? Maybe useful just for Interviews, EPK, ???
I would buy them in a sec if they had excellent mechanics and marks.
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In general you are correct but Reds get used in a variety of production types. Once you factor in the electronic control of focus and iris the mechanics of these lenses become much less of an obstacle, and this is very important for productions on a limited budget.
 
Evin Grant said:
Once you factor in the electronic control of focus and iris the mechanics of these lenses become much less of an obstacle, and this is very important for productions on a limited budget.
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I'm wondering if good electronic glass could be useful even for productions that AREN'T on a limited budget. If the RedMote is as good as many people hope it is, still glass could be a very light weight wireless solution that doesn't require rails to mount bulky Preston motors and such.
 
Well the thing is with RED there has been a big change in that there is now a large amount of owner operators/owner renters, and with Nikon Glass you can have a full range of lenses for the price of a single Master Prime, for that reason alone it makes sense to be looking at high end stills glass (Which remember the high end cine glass is based on many still glass tech, look at Panavision Primo's) for purchase.
Got a big production? Rent a set of master primes or a Zeiss Master Zoom.
Got a small production? Use your Nikon Glass. Rent a spciality Macro or Zoom if needed.
Want to take your camera out one evening when the light is nice ans shoot the sunset, glass is there ready to go and so is the camera.

So while stills glass doesnt have the mechanics, its price/performance ratio is off the wall. So it makes sense to me at any rate for RED owners to be looking into it.
 
Evin, did you get the Novoflex with AF confirmation chip?
If so, does it work in practice?

I'm very exited about the eventual possibility to program different focus points on the Epic and have them execute with a puch of a button. Would make difficult camera movement so much easier.

Martin
 
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The mount I have is "dumb", IE no electronics. AFAIK the Canon's can't use autofocus confirmation for video anyway. For obvious reasons I wouldn't use theses lenses for stills on a Canon.

BTW here are some breathing tests on @f1.4 on a 5D...

http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/24mmBreathing.MOV
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/35mmBreathing.MOV
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/50mmBreathing.MOV
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/85mmBreathing.MOV

Overall I think the breathing is pretty good for still lenses. Checkout the min. focus at the end of the 24mm clip!
 
Shane Betts said:
Thanks Evin. I have the same question. Does this adaptor also provide focus confirmation or is it, as I fear, you get either focus confirmation or G lens support?
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Does Canon require electronics for focus confirmation? That surprises me. On my Nikons, I get focus confirmation with AIS lenses and they have no electronics at all.
 
Evin Grant said:
The mount I have is "dumb", IE no electronics. AFAIK the Canon's can't use autofocus confirmation for video anyway. For obvious reasons I wouldn't use theses lenses for stills on a Canon.

BTW here are some breathing tests on @f1.4 on a 5D...

http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/24mmBreathing.MOV
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/35mmBreathing.MOV
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/50mmBreathing.MOV
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/NikonGtest/85mmBreathing.MOV

Overall I think the breathing is pretty good for still lenses. Checkout the min. focus at the end of the 24mm clip!
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Thanks for these Evin! Yeah, not bad for stills. Hello Doggie!
 
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