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nikon d90 slr records HD video.

Graeme Nattress said:
Not RAW, probably not enough data rate. Probably a neat feature that really doesn't turn out to be useful in practice.

Graeme
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But the idea of it is what is so exciting. Isn't it the same fundamentals as Red? From there, we're just debating data compression & frame rates. I mean in a very very general way and by no means a direct comparison.

This entire paradigm shift is cool and so obvious once a person gets their mind around it. A D-SLR that uses a full-frame sensor and 35mm lenses, from there it was all about the data math and write speed.

It's ironic that film cinema cameras / companies had more to fear from the technology of DSLR than from 24p video cameras.
 
Since DSLRs have been used to make films, we've only ever been debating fps and compression and resolution. This is surely a step further for Nikon indeed, but also a natural progression. Don't get me wrong - I welcome healthy, good spirited competition, but I don't see the D90 as "the" convergence product that I think Scarlet will be. It is most certainly a step in the right direction though!

Graeme
 
KnockOutFilms said:
It's ironic that film cinema cameras / companies had more to fear from the technology of DSLR than from 24p video cameras.
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I guess the company to really watch out for is Cannon, since they have a long tradition with both and are sort of behind right now. It's just a matter if they'll do it in time to matter. If not Nikon may be the one who unexpectedly steals the thunder in the upcoming digital cinematic revolution (besides Red, of course, who is helping getting it started).
 
It's just Nikon trying to tempt the high-end point and shoot buyers with an interesting new twist on their low-end DSLRs. Spec-wise, the camera is utter crap but I can see how some consumers might go for it.
 
Graeme Nattress said:
Since DSLRs have been used to make films, we've only ever been debating fps and compression and resolution. This is surely a step further for Nikon indeed, but also a natural progression. Don't get me wrong - I welcome healthy, good spirited competition, but I don't see the D90 as "the" convergence product that I think Scarlet will be. It is most certainly a step in the right direction though!

Graeme
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Yes I agree that this particular Nikon product doesn't represent any competition for true "filmmaking" products. But as someone mentioned, it might appeal to vacationers that don't want to carry 2 cameras around, but still have decent image quality on the video side.

It's just that the technology advancement is cool to watch.

On a sort of similar note however, I still think there could be a place in the market for a "Video" camera with a full-frame sensor, but a nice workable 720 or 1080 output. Like an HVX with a 35mm sensor. Record DVCPRO HD 720 or 1080 to a card, then dump to a computer and have at it--and with a 3-5k price point

Seeing Nikon's tech advancements shows that someone might offer the above.

Cheers,
Chris
 
Sample movies:

http://chsvimg.nikon.com/products/imaging/lineup/d90/en/d-movie/#c-1

Video quality itself is hard to judge from these flash samples being downsized at least by a factor of 3. Optics are great though. Then again, this is Nikon you'd expect no less. Could be very intriguing, especially as DX optics are pretty affordable. Curious to see more specs and some unflashed examples.

Noah
 
DOF is as you'd expect. Obviously shrinking it down to 720p or lower helps with DOF focus issues. I did notice some exposure jumps, and some ugly clipping, but we'll have to see how it really performs.

It's hard to judge quality, so it's a shame Nikon didn't put up a real AVI for us to really see....

Graeme
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
We don't have all the details yet, but I'm positive it will use a center crop area of the sensor. Meaning that it will not be comparable to an HVX200 with a 35mm adapter -- you won't get the 35mm shallow DOF.
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Just saw a clip taken with a fisheye, which strongly suggests that this is not the case. I am even willing to wager that the sensor (or camera) is probably doing some binning, not straight subsampling.
 
I hope they will include a manual aperture setting, those clips looked horrid.

Might be a nice alternative for those using DOF adapters but it leaves much to be desired.
 
ah who cares, I'm buying one. There will be at least one situation in the next year in which it enables me to get a shot that would otherwise not be possible.

personally it's exciting. we will see 16 year olds shooting movies with this.

And it's probably also only the first step. If they continue to improve it....
 
I'd guess that it's using a binning method also, which could lead to aliasing issues. Be keen to get someone to point one at a zone plate for me.

Graeme
 
Code Rad said:
I hope they will include a manual aperture setting, those clips looked horrid.

Might be a nice alternative for those using DOF adapters but it leaves much to be desired.
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I am pretty sure you can lock exposure. I think most of the videos were shot by photographers who rely on auto exposure, focus.
I have a D200 and have never shot with any auto exposure modes.
I ordered the D90 which will serve as another timelapse camera.
It will be interesting to get the D90 and my HVX200 in a side by side comparison.
 
Once they sort out autofocus, breathing compensation, 1080p (Minimum), faster fps and improved aperture control and have an image quality without any unexpected niggles this would be a very exciting piece of kit.

I've always wanted to have an slr to shoot movies with. Exciting to see Nikon putting their hand to it. Imagine the options for throwing those things about on rigs or handheld, how small and light a steadicam would need to be, putting the thing underwater... everything suddenly becomes a lot less hassle, significantly easier and less expensive to boot... Crash camera anyone? :)

Looking forward to what Nikon comes up with in their later models with Dmovie. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Nikon's and Canon's of this world becoming Red's biggest competitors in the next few years... Not too mention the Arri and Panavision's of this world suddenly shitting themselves that their lens collections might take a tumble in the next few years... Eeek

Exciting stuff!

Paul
 
Agreed. There are some short comings now, but this could be the start of a trend that can completely change the industry. Exciting times.
 
Nikon D90... 190 290 & 390 soon?

Nikon D90... 190 290 & 390 soon?

Boy this thread is interesting to watch. Some here sound like Sony and Panasonic people poo pooing the initial Red One announcement. Don't underestimate Nikon, or Canon for that matter. They watch the RED phenomenon with keen attention to the market possibilities. And...they have tremendous resources, imager fabs, and established lens manufacturing. As soon as they both start competing with each other in this market space (motion imaging) watch out!

Michael Bravin
Been Here Before...many times
Chief Technology Officer
Band Pro Film & Digital
 
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Image size (pixels) 1,280 x 720/24 fps, 640 x 424/24 fps, 320 x 216/24 fps
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Compression format Motion-JPEG, with monaural sound

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