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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Nice "hot" day in Spain...

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Jim,

Thanks for the open R&D policy that continues to trounce everything in the "established corporate strata" ala the competition.

My question is, since I intend to use my R1 mostly in Africa, where the average temperature is about 100F all year round, what do you propose would be the most cost effective and viable way to manage the heat issue, taking into consideration that the camera kit will be rented out in some cases, without me nor a camera assistant from my side accompanying it?
 
Let's see where we stand with the 1st production build and the new sensor cooler. But gel packs and shade seem to be working fine in Spain.

Jim
 
As always, appreciate you and your team's presence on these boards. Mucho gracias!
 
Jannard said:
I have taken a lot of flak on some boards (so I have been told) for being open about the R&D going on at the shoot. This whole idea of including the industry in our development has been a good thing overall. This board (Reduser) has made many suggestions that we have incorporated into our camera and accessories.
Jim
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With most companies your chances of talking to the boss are zero. With Red, we usually get a response on the board, from the boss, in an hour or so. It's weird, but it works. And it's great to know that Reduser is feeding back into the camera. This culture you've developed could be as important as the camera itself, and something that other companies will struggle to copy.
 
The cans of PC board chiller solutions I've seen spray a liquid that quickly evaporates. While the liquid is evaporating the board or device under test shows frost and gets down to -40 C or below. You could not cool any real heat-generating device with this for any significant length of time though, you'd run through a can very quickly. I guess the cans of cold air are similar but expel the gas just after it's boiled off the liquid while still inside the can. I think you would still run through it fairly quickly if you spray enough to really drop the temperature.

A gel pack seems like a very quick, easy, reusable solution. If there is a threat of condensation, you want to cool the camera only just enough, not to try for maximum cold. Depending on the conditions you might separate the gel pack slightly from the camera, wrap it in a cloth, or something.

On the other hand, if the camera is well sealed, some condensation on the exterior body may not matter anyway. I assume the lens front element would be somewhat insulated from the camera body just by distance and many mechanical interfaces, so I'd guess less danger of dew there.
 
yeah, as I mentioned before shade and dust off worked for me. No wet to deal with.
-A
 
Jim, I think I've found the perfect solution to your heat problem...
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...Although I'd recomend finding a better coolant:cold:
 
HotCooler Gel Paks

HotCooler Gel Paks

Your heatwave R1 accessory....
 
Thanks for the update.

E.
 
you could always adapt the 'the worlds first jet powered beer cooler' :D - http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer/index.html

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"The engine itself will run at up to 100000 rpm with exhaust temperatures of around 500 C and noise levels in excess of 125 dBA. The beer is successfully chilled to a nice cool 2 C."
 
Well no one here in the UK is too worried about their camera overheating... now waterproofing that's another matter. I mean it's the height of summer and we're having the worst floods ever? So very dumb! Time to move abroad me thinks!
 
roryhinds said:
I guess this is why film will never die, its just to robust.
Regards
Rory
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Did you miss my story about my last film shoot, with film spooling out, hours disappearing, labs spoiling shots? And I was working with a good crew and a reputable lab.

Maybe you were trying to raise a smile, because you certainly did. I remember, just 10 years ago, photographers were still saying digital would never replace film. It did.
 
With most companies your chances of talking to the boss are zero. With Red, we usually get a response on the board, from the boss, in an hour or so. It's weird, but it works. And it's great to know that Reduser is feeding back into the camera. This culture you've developed could be as important as the camera itself, and something that other companies will struggle to copy.
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Well put.

The best advertising is word of mouth and our business is a tight knit group.

Jim's willingness to share and listen will create one of the most loyal customer bases imaginable. I am proud to be part of the revolution.
 
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ChristopherKenworthy said:
Did you miss my story about my last film shoot, with film spooling out, hours disappearing, labs spoiling shots? And I was working with a good crew and a reputable lab.

Maybe you were trying to raise a smile, because you certainly did. I remember, just 10 years ago, photographers were still saying digital would never replace film. It did.
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what happened to you was an isolated incident. hd cameras overheating is commonplace. when it comes to temperature extremes (rare for most productions), there is still no digital camera system that beats a sturdy 16mm or 35mm camera.
 
what happened to you was an isolated incident. hd cameras overheating is commonplace. when it comes to temperature extremes (rare for most productions), there is still no digital camera system that beats a sturdy 16mm or 35mm camera.
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You might be correct, but I won't miss buying stock, paying for development not to mention transfer.... and I was only shooting 16mm.
 
I know which one I'd prefer to lug around in extreme temperatures though, working or not :)
 
wigby said:
what happened to you was an isolated incident. hd cameras overheating is commonplace. when it comes to temperature extremes (rare for most productions), there is still no digital camera system that beats a sturdy 16mm or 35mm camera.
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I must admit that I wasn't aware of this HD-heating problem until this rush of news in the past few days. But, hey, film going bad is not an isolated incident. Did you see how many days they lost on Lord of The Rings due to lab/film problems? Too many. I'll keep my Red cool, and my last few reels of Kodak 400T just went in the bin.
 
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