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Olivier Gresse

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Hi everybody,

I took the red offer to move to the Epic and I have to choose my accessory list.

My works are essentially Documentary and Fiction.

First of all I want to know if I should buy a RED MINI-MAG SIDE MODULE SSD or is already included with the EPIC-W?

Here is my list, can you tell me if something is missing, please, or if you advise me something else?


  • DSMC Nikon Mount – Aluminium
  • DSMC2™ RED Touch 4.7"
  • RED MINI-MAG – 1 TB
  • RED STATION RED MINI-MAG
  • Cable-less V-mount from Wooden Camera
  • Accessory Kit (Advanced) from Wooden Camera

I also have one V-mount Battery from Globalmedia (Li 190S) and I would like to know if this battery is compatible and how many hours I can power on the EPIC with it?

I'm also curious about :
- the DSMC RED MOTION TI PL MOUNT
- the DSMC2 RED EVF (OLED)

but they are out of my budget.

The problem of the accessory kit is that the XLR of the A-Box doesn't have phantom power, right ? Is there another problem with this kit ?

What is the best solution to use the EPIC on my shoulder ?

Thank you very much for your help
 
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Merci Marc !

Is someone know if the "A-box" from "Wooden Camera" can still be use on the DSMC2 because I can't see the two jack inputs on pictures of the new body ?

If yes, is it work with the DSMC2™ V-Lock I/O Expander ?

Thanks
 
Hey Oliver - Fellow newbie here who has a similar list as you. I've been doing a lot of research, so here are some of my findings:

With the WC Cableless V-Mount as your only back module, you won't be getting all of the connections you need to make the A-Box and the Advanced Wooden Camera Kit fully functional. The camera DOES NOT come with a microphone jack or headphone jack. So, you have to get one of Red's back modules to make that work. I think the DSMC2 V-Lock I/O Expander seems to be the best bang for your buck as you get a V-Mount (so you can skip the wooden camera one) as well as all of the hookups.

Also, I've been researching a lot of V-Mount batteries here on RedUser and around the web, and the new Dynacore batteries look like the best value for time-shooting (155wh), size, and price: http://www.dynabatteries.com/shop/batteries/dm-155s-battery/ - RedUsers seem to like them as well: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?148132-Dynacore-Mini-series-battery-for-Red

Hope this helps!


Olivier Gresse said:
Hi everybody,

I took the red offer to move to the Epic and I have to choose my accessory list.

My works are essentially Documentary and Fiction.

First of all I want to know if I should buy a RED MINI-MAG SIDE MODULE SSD or is already included with the EPIC-W?

Here is my list, can you tell me if something is missing, please, or if you advise me something else?


  • DSMC Nikon Mount – Aluminium
  • DSMC2™ RED Touch 4.7"
  • RED MINI-MAG – 1 TB
  • RED STATION RED MINI-MAG
  • Cable-less V-mount from Wooden Camera
  • Accessory Kit (Advanced) from Wooden Camera
I also have one V-mount Battery from Globalmedia (Li 190S) and I would like to know if this battery is compatible and how many hours I can power on the EPIC with it?

I'm also curious about :
- the DSMC RED MOTION TI PL MOUNT
- the DSMC2 RED EVF (OLED)

but they are out of my budget.

The problem of the accessory kit is that the XLR of the A-Box doesn't have phantom power, right ? Is there another problem with this kit ?

What is the best solution to use the EPIC on my shoulder ?

Thank you very much for your help
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Kerrin Sheldon said:
Hey Oliver - Fellow newbie here who has a similar list as you. I've been doing a lot of research, so here are some of my findings:

With the WC Cableless V-Mount as your only back module, you won't be getting all of the connections you need to make the A-Box and the Advanced Wooden Camera Kit fully functional. The camera DOES NOT come with a microphone jack or headphone jack. So, you have to get one of Red's back modules to make that work. I think the DSMC2 V-Lock I/O Expander seems to be the best bang for your buck as you get a V-Mount (so you can skip the wooden camera one) as well as all of the hookups.

Also, I've been researching a lot of V-Mount batteries here on RedUser and around the web, and the new Dynacore batteries look like the best value for time-shooting (155wh), size, and price: http://www.dynabatteries.com/shop/batteries/dm-155s-battery/ - RedUsers seem to like them as well: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?148132-Dynacore-Mini-series-battery-for-Red

Hope this helps!
Click to expand...
 
Jaimy Soares said:
They have a new A box for the DSMC2 line with 1jack. http://woodencamera.com/a-box-weapon-scarlet-w-raven.html
Click to expand...

Thanks

The problem with the new A box is that it does not provide phantom power and I need it !

So I hesitate between the REDVOLT expander with two XLR and two SDI (but expensive and not very light) and the OMOD POE XLR, but the OMOD won't be avalaible until January or February.

Do you know if the wooden camera top plate is compatible with the DSMC2 RED EVF (OLED) wireless ? Because it seems that the plate plugs in the EVF port...

Thanks Kerrin for the information on batteries, I also hesitate because I have some Sony PLV and Globalmedia V-lock batteries but the Globalmedia Baterries are too large for the V-mount I/O expander and I want some batteries with T-tap.

If I take the Redvolt expander, I can choose the wooden camera V-mount wireless but it's a more expensive solution, just to have two XLR and to have the ability to use Globalmedia batteries !
 
I use that mic mount and bracket on my Epic Dragon and it's a great simple setup, you should be able to bolt it onto the top plate in the wooden camera accessory kit.

As a Epic Dragon owner I can't totally speak for the DSMC2 line up but I really felt that an EVF was essential for focus in some situations (like outdoors in bright sun.) This might be personal preference but the DSMC 1 small monitor is definitely not as perfect as I need for my eyes.

As for shoulder mounts, I use the wooden camera one and I think the accessory kit will give you everything you need to connect to it. I like it but I must say I don't have a lot of experience with many other systems. What I like about it is that it is very simple and compact. It feels very robust and there are too many working parts so I can chuck it around.

As for what's missing, you may want to think about the sidekick or the side handle too as they give you another means of controlling the camera settings other than just the touchscreen. I would also add that I would try everything to end up with more than one red mini mag. To simply get all the media off that card will take a long time and with one card you will not be shooting while that happens. I think 8K and shooting pro res at the same time will help fill that card quicker than you think and if you have any issues with corruption or anything you'll have no back up.

If you are shooting doco stuff I could easily see an interview taking up a large part of your card and creating a situation where you need to stop and transfer your one copy of everything onto your laptop of whatever and having to wait an hour or so for that to happen before continuing. I have three 512s and they have been perfect for my needs. Once you are on that third card you know that you better start freeing up the media on card one again just in case.

As for the phantom power, this is one of the issues that is making me hesitate to upgrade to the Epic W. There's no other option than to spend to get the right modules or use an external option and something you'll come to know about the Red ecosystem is that a planned release date doesn't necessarily mean there will be one available for you on that day. Cool stuff gets snapped up quickly.

Hope some of this helps mate. I found that the best thing for me was to get a smaller but fully working system first and then let it help me generate the funds to buy some of the extra bits.

Cheers
Rich
 
Hi Richard,

Thank you for your reply

Yes, you're right, I think buying another mini-mag Red quickly. I wanted to take the 1 TB but it is unavailable so I think taking a 512 GB to start and I'll buy one or two thereafter.

I also wanted to buy the OLED viewfinder but I will first see what happens with the LCD 4.7 and my smallhd 502.

Regarding XLR and SDI I finally decided to go on REDvolt expander, very expensive but it is currently the only solution to have XLR inputs with phantom power. I will also take the cable-less V-Mount Camera Wooden home which will allow me to switch to a config without sound and a config with outputs and a little heavier.

I actually think quickly take a shoulder support, I'll watch that of wooden camera.

I was also interested in the new handle side but is unavailable in Red for now.
 
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