New RED Color Science - Test Pilot Feedback Thread

[Adrian T.]

Graeme, you're the pixies master! Congratulations!
:thumbsup:

 

[tj williams]

WOW!!!!! Graeme Amazing.

Hoping to see plug-ins in Final Cut, Premiere,RED alert, RED cine, and color grading programs: Soon to take advantage of this amazing new technology!

Now I'm waiting to see what Graeme does about increasing dynamic range.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

More tungsten light bulb 75W - macro shots

More tungsten light bulb 75W - macro shots

More tungsten light bulb 75W performance with RA 3.72B - macro shots

Shot on RED1 with Leica Macro Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 @ f/4 using 1:1 macro adapter, ISO 320, Light: tungsten bulb 75W, RED Space out

4K JPEG download>>>

Shot on RED1 with Leica Macro Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 @ f/4 using 1:1 macro adapter, ISO 320, Light: tungsten bulb 75W, RED Space out

4K JPEG download>>>

Shot on RED1 with Leica Macro Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 @ f/4 using 1:1 macro adapter, ISO 320, Light: tungsten bulb 75W, RED Space out

4K JPEG download>>>

Tungsten bulb light 75W wire, Shot on RED1 with Leica Macro Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 @ f/11 using 1:1 macro adapter, ISO 320,
Filters Hoya Circ-Pola 55mm, Hoya NDx2+NDx4+NDx8 55mm, Leica E55 UV/IR 55mm, Light: tungsten bulb 75W, RED Space out

4K JPEG download>>>

 

[Shane Kelly]

I haven't started testing in earnest yet but here's a still of test for a job at 640 asa and 3200k. I'm very impressed with the faster asa results.
Ekran35mm @ f11

 

[Kenneth Elkington]

Now I'm waiting to see what Graeme does about increasing dynamic range.

Well it effectively does this. If you're lowering the noise floor, you have more room to open up more shadow detail.

 

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Still haven't got my camera back to test the new firmware....

But I've pulled up some older footage, under-exposed footage, bad tungsten light stuff. This is great. I'll have to post some "me-too" shots in a bit. This is every bit as significant as Build 16, possibly more.

 

[Peter Majtan]

Has anyone else compared build 18 RA 3.72b with build 17 RA 3.6 yet?

Seeing as this is the difference everyone thinks they are seeing here, it's odd that no one seems to have compared them.

Many of us did - have a look through the thread...

Peter

Here is one (same file - identical settings - 3.60 vs 3.72):

 

[Irri]

Many of us did - have a look through the thread...

Peter

Here is one (same file - identical settings - 3.60 vs 3.72):

Those are both from a build 17 shot? Nice!

 

[Rainer Fritz]

Many of us did - have a look through the thread...

Peter

Here is one (same file - identical settings - 3.60 vs 3.72):

THAT IS AWSOME..... GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Greame you are the Pixel King !

regards
rainer

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Vintage beauties!

Vintage beauties!

THAT IS AWSOME..... GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guten Tag, Herr Fritz!

Here are the latest tests shot on R1 with some vintage macro still lenses:

Shot on RED1 with Angenieux 35-70mm FD f/2.5-3.3 zoom in macro mode, ISO 320, RED Space out, processed in RA 3.72B

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Shot on RED1 with Angenieux 35-70mm FD f/2.5-3.3 zoom in macro mode, ISO 320, RED Space out, processed in RA 3.72B

4K JPEG>>>

Shot on RED1 with Leica Macro Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 with macro 1:1 magnification adapter, ISO 320, RED Space out, processed in RA 3.72B

4K JPEG>>>

Shot on RED1 with Leica Macro Elmarit-R 60mm f/2.8 with macro 1:1 magnification adapter, ISO 320, RED Space out, processed in RA 3.72B

4K JPEG>>>

 

[David Nardini]

This is all GREAT ... for how much longer do I have to sit here and SUFFER and watch what the new RA can do with some of my R3D files ? :head_explode:

If anybody did not get the 'power of RAW', this thread should make the penny drop ! Shadow detail is starting to behave as one would expect ... fantastic, another camera changing software release from what I can see (would love to play myself !); the camera build presenting the visible benefits of the latest RA power (I guess).

ETA for RA : for those chomping at the bit ?

Well done Graeme & team ... :thumbsup:

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Sanjin, can you post comparisons? Your last shots are nice but they don't showcase what we are discussing here.

 

[Marcus Struzina]

I might have missed it but has anyone tried to see how the new red alert etc works with noisy time lapse footage of 1 or1/2 sec exposure ?

 

[Rainer Fritz]

Hallo Sanjin !

tut leid, daß ich beim showcase nicht zum händeschüttln gekommen bin.... die bilder sehen fantastisch aus.....

lg
rainer

 

[Simon Valderrama]

Sanjin, can you post comparisons? Your last shots are nice but they don't showcase what we are discussing here.

Second this one. We all know our RED makes awesome images, what has been really interesting so far are the comparisons.
Liked the macro shots anyway
One exception could be a new version of the famous "girl with only candlelight" shot, maybe with your awesome Leica Noctilux-M 50mm f/0.95 ?

 

[JD Holloway]

...1280 iso would be nice too.

I like to see some underexposed (jam the filter tray/crank the shutter, not stop-down) day exteriors too with specular hits (chrome etc). Any sort of fringe control here for mediocre lenses?
Black sun issue solved for over exposure?

I wrote in Jim's exposure 101 thread,

Processing poorly (subjective) exposed low-light tungsten RAW footage in RC or RA at 3200,
often produces more noise than processing at 5000K and colour correcting.
This should not be the case.
In my opinion, it's caused the most heart ache for new shooters. Its like you under-expose in post; a sort-of blue channel timing issue.
I'd like to know what is going on in the software here. Blue gain obviously, but could a different approach be used? Are there consequences?
If I was shooting "Barry Lyndon" tomorrow (1500-2200K sources for instance), I think I would develop at 5k and CC.
I don't think this should be the case.

What I'm seeing is a complete redress of the issue. I have to eat my words. This is a terrific improvement. Kudos to the brains and hard work behind it.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin, can you post comparisons? Your last shots are nice but they don't showcase what we are discussing here.

Roberto,

here I'm more for good things with RED1 just to show a beauty of new and magnificent color science in RA 3.72B.

But now per your request I'll have also something to show as a comparison between RED Alert 3.60 & RA 3.72B @ ISO 2000:

Shot on RED1 with Leica Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4 @ f/1.4 wide open, RA comparison 1 @ ISO 2000.

Shot on RED1 with Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.2 Asph @ f/1.2 wide open, RA comparison 2 @ ISO 2000.

Shot on RED1 with Canon 50mm FDL f/1.2 @ f/1.2 wide open, RA comparison 2 @ ISO 2000.

Shot on RED1 with Canon 50mm FDL f/1.2 @ f/1.2 wide open, RA comparison 2 @ ISO 2000.


4K RA 3.60 example 1>>>

4K RA 3.72B example 1>>>

4K RA 3.60 example 2>>>

4K RA 3.72B example 2>>>

4K RA 3.60 example 3>>>

4K RA 3.72B example 3>>>

4K RA 3.60 example 4>>>

4K RA 3.72B example 4>>>

 

[JD Holloway]

Thanks Sanj,
Great updated test footy.

Interesting colour shift in the streetlights.
Its gone magenta/violet (shorter wavelength)
while the image is overall warmer (longer wavelength).
I guess this makes sense in colour addition.
Candle artifact is gone too.

 

[Rami Mustakim]

It's amazing !!!
What do I have to do to get this new version of REDAlert !
Is it possible to get one or do we have to wait ?
If so anybody knows how long we'll have to wait?

 

[Ed Watkins]

Many of us did - have a look through the thread...

Peter

Here is one (same file - identical settings - 3.60 vs 3.72):

Now that is the kinds of comparisons I wanted to see, thanks Peter!

Great work RED team!