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New Mac Pro Announced at WWDC! - It's OFFICIAL!

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Apple has actually talked to Adobe and BMD? There are a few months until this is released and, unbelieveable to some, things tend to evolve over time. :huh:
 
Brandon J.F. said:
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So Steampunk is in fashion by the looks of the thing ? Thanks for posting, any more pics ?
 
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Terry VerHaar said:
Has anyone ever thought that maybe Apple has actually talked to Adobe and BMD? There are a few months until this is released and, unbelieveable to some, things tend to evolve over time. :huh:
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Both support OpenCL processing too, hopefully this announcement means that OpenCL support will be beefed up in Adobe and BMD products, I suspect that thsoe GPUs will probably have a enough kick for 4K 25fps real time in Resolve.
 
Peter Proniewicz-Brooks said:
Both support OpenCL processing too, hopefully this announcement means that OpenCL support will be beefed up in Adobe and BMD products, I suspect that thsoe GPUs will probably have a enough kick for 4K 25fps real time in Resolve.
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With how many nodes?

You can get an Intel integrated GPU that has can play 4K 25fps. That in of itself is not a big deal.

Terry VerHaar said:
Has anyone ever thought that maybe Apple has actually talked to Adobe and BMD? There are a few months until this is released and, unbelieveable to some, things tend to evolve over time. :huh:
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Apple may have talked to Adobe and BMD... but I bet they didn't listen that hard.

Otherwise they would have made a slightly larger system with two PCIe slots - so you could plug in two nVidia Titans. And then replace those with Titan 2's in a year's time.

This way makes Apple more money because the Mac Pro gets obsolete faster.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
I'm on board. Even if it's not what I normally think of as "rack mountable", just measured and I have enough room in my XRackPro to set about twenty-seven of these puppies if desired. Crazy.

I'm liking this design. Yes, I think so. DIT carts just got a lot smaller.
 
I think we are all missing the point here. NVIDIA was starting to have a monopoly on GPU intensive applications. Monopoly is not good for end users. Just look at the pricing for the high end NVIDIA GPU's. If you look closely - Apple has been alternating between NVIDIA and AMD in each consecutive generation - just look at the MBP. Maybe there is a message hidden in this to the SW developers - support both CUDA and OPEN-CL - give the end customers choice and promote healthy competition between AMD and NVIDIA. I'll bet the next gen Mac Pro will have NVIDIA built-in...

This is not an issue with Apple. This is issue with SW developers...

:sifone: Peter
 
Terry VerHaar said:
Has anyone ever thought that maybe Apple has actually talked to Adobe and BMD?
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Naaah... if you've talked to vendors who have worked with Apple over the past decade, a recurring tale is that no matter how huge you are, they're still often treated like someone off the street. Anything from dropping XServe all of a sudden, to dragging their feet for years on the >4GB Quicktime export bug that haunts Adobe users to this day.
 
Bruce Allen said:
With how many nodes?

You can get an Intel integrated GPU that has can play 4K 25fps. That in of itself is not a big deal.



Apple may have talked to Adobe and BMD... but I bet they didn't listen that hard.

Otherwise they would have made a slightly larger system with two PCIe slots - so you could plug in two nVidia Titans. And then replace those with Titan 2's in a year's time.

This way makes Apple more money because the Mac Pro gets obsolete faster.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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Well given that the firepro AMD cards performance is compared on their website to the Tesla range of nNidia cards not the Titan (which is a consumer grade chip based on the Tesla just with lower performance), theres some sign theres probably a fair amount of grunt there......

There is is likely to be upgradability issues for many here, but with a halfway competent OpenCL implementation there should be plenty of power there.
 
Mathieu Ghekiere said:
http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

Website is up.

Up to 2x 6GB VRAM performance...
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"Up to 7 teraflops of computing power"

Great.

A SINGLE Radeon 7990 can already do 8.2 teraflops according to AMD.

So this will be another one of those "really expensive 12-core Xeons coupled with OK but not great GPU performance" releases.

Should be fine for guys doing FCP X. For heavier stuff... ouch ouch ouch.

The only reason this thing will seem faster is because the old Mac Pro is several generations behind.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
I have a super-loaded 15" Retina MacBook Pro, but this does make me drool. The internal Flash storage speed is absolutely bonkers.

I can see how some need greater expandability. For my purposes, though, it is seriously tempting. I suppose it'll depend on how much it costs.

Damn sexy.
 
After looking at all the specs, this new one looks like it's going to do some serious damage.
 
There is one thing that could put the iTUBE (I love that) back on track EDIT: (for power users)...

PCIe GEN4
 
Joe Kleber said:
There is one thing that could put the iTUBE (I love that) back on track...

PCIe GEN4
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I'd settle for Gen3 if I could actually plug anything in.

"We see that the future is GPU compute... so we decided to build in a non-upgradeable middle-of-the-road solution so that you'll have to buy a whole new computer and more overpriced Xeon chips when you want more GPU power"

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
Bruce Allen said:
"Up to 7 teraflops of computing power"

Great.

A SINGLE Radeon 7990 can already do 8.2 teraflops according to AMD.

So this will be another one of those "really expensive 12-core Xeons coupled with OK but not great GPU performance" releases.

Should be fine for guys doing FCP X. For heavier stuff... ouch ouch ouch.

The only reason this thing will seem faster is because the old Mac Pro is several generations behind.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
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A 7990 is a dual GPU card.
 
From Grant Petty :
http://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8898

Hi,

We have been testing with DaVinci Resolve 10 builds and this screams. Its amazing and those GPUs are incredible powerful. I am not sure what I can say as I am only going off what Apple has talked about publicly here in the keynote for what I can say right now, however there is a whole new OpenCL and DaVinci Resolve 10 has had a lot of performance work done to integrate it and its really really fast. Those GPUs are very powerful and have lots of GPU memory so this is the Mac we have been waiting for! We have lots of Thunderbolt products too so video in and out is taken care of.

We will have more details once the guys get back from WWDC and we get some more info from Apple on what we can talk about etc.

Overall we could not be happier!

Regards,

Grant Petty
Blackmagic Design
 
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