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New "Game Changer" Movi Handheld Stabilizer

Brian Anderson said:
This is an amazing tool. For me this wouldn't work weight wise. My lightest setup is a scarlet + side handle + redvolt + 5in lcd + 14-24 lens = 12lbs+. If the rig did support the extra weight it seems like it'd kill your back on a long take but maybe not.
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I think with a easy rig ,your long takes would be fine
 
Looks like a really impressive rig and great for DSLR stuff. I'm curious how well it will work with longer lenses. The film was shot with a 24mm and 18mm lens. What's it look like with an 85mm? Will it balance with heavy cine glass? It also seems quite expensive when you consider the version that will fly an Epic will likely cost more than an Epic (possibly much more). All that aside... I can't wait to see what people do with this :)
 
Looks fantastic. But 10 pounds is just not enough... Really curious what the m20 costs also. Wireless videotetransmitter, wireless ff, power to all those devices, keeping that under 10 pounds with epic will be really hard.
 
Also concerned with price. It seems like the same concept of multi copter gymbals, and these don't go anywhere near that price. Its a fantastic idea but as it is, unreachable for many indies. Game changer will be when it hits the 6k ballpark. Its going to make some hollywood productions or very high end commercials become less expensive, and we will be seeing a LOT of De Palma esque steadicam shots and sequences, but still far away from the indie crowd. Dragon will be the REAL game changer...
 
Sergio Perez said:
Also concerned with price. It seems like the same concept of multi copter gymbals, and these don't go anywhere near that price. Its a fantastic idea but as it is, unreachable for many indies. Game changer will be when it hits the 6k ballpark. Its going to make some hollywood productions or very high end commercials become less expensive, and we will be seeing a LOT of De Palma esque steadicam shots and sequences, but still far away from the indie crowd. Dragon will be the REAL game changer...
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FreeFly, the manufacturer of the MoVI, makes mostly copters and accessories for them. My octocopter is mostly based on their stuff... works great.

Difference of this new system is the DD or direct drive approach, using brushless motors. Earlier gimbals used servo motors with pullies.
 
Ryan Sauve said:
I wonder how quickly your arms would get tired with the M20 version with a kitted out Epic/Scarlet? There must be an accessory for that I would think?
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Sure easyrig would be a great combo!
 
Don't gyros make a lot more noise and require a lot more power than steadicam? Not to mention its probably 5-10x the price of a steadicam with a similar load capacity? And completely incapable of stabilizing loads that steadicams work best at? The low weight capacity and size restrictions seem like they'd become a pretty big problem once you put all the wireless FF and video transmitters and other accessories that having a completely isolated camera requires.

On the other hand, taking far less time to balance than a steadicam is probably nice, and its probably useful for people who are shooting on small DSLRs... but are they the ones with the budget for a $7-15k stabilizer?

Note that not one of the videos Vincent Laforet posted gave any sense of how much sound this thing makes. Even the demo video showing its operation was noticeably completely MOS... Wouldn't want to ruin their gearblog blitz with practical realities? Sorry just playing devil's advocate here :)
 
Noah Yuan-Vogel said:
Don't gyros make a lot more noise and require a lot more power than steadicam? Not to mention its probably 5-10x the price of a steadicam with a similar load capacity? And completely incapable of stabilizing loads that steadicams work best at? The low weight capacity and size restrictions seem like they'd become a pretty big problem once you put all the wireless FF and video transmitters and other accessories that having a completely isolated camera requires.

On the other hand, taking far less time to balance than a steadicam is probably nice, and its probably useful for people who are shooting on small DSLRs... but are they the ones with the budget for a $7-15k stabilizer?

Note that not one of the videos Vincent Laforet posted gave any sense of how much sound this thing makes. Even the demo video showing its operation was noticeably completely MOS... Wouldn't want to ruin their gearblog blitz with practical realities? Sorry just playing devil's advocate here :)
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The MoVi as a steadicam alternative is just a side product. It was mainly developed as a copter gimbal. Direct drive motors are way quieter than servo motors, but normally not quite enough to allow on set sound recording. Again, they developed their own motors, so they might be really silent.

And no, those gimbals have to be perfectly balanced (I have the previous model which looks the same, just with servo motors), so I doubt that it will be quicker to balance than a steadicam.
 
Brian Anderson said:
This is an amazing tool. For me this wouldn't work weight wise. My lightest setup is a scarlet + side handle + redvolt + 5in lcd + 14-24 lens = 12lbs+. If the rig did support the extra weight it seems like it'd kill your back on a long take but maybe not.
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I think you don't want use the red 5'' touch srceen, it's a heavy lcd.
Concerning Epic and the M10 it seems possible, as Vincent Laforet wrote : "We’ve been using the Epic and the Canon primes and Zeiss CP.2 lenses all week on a commercial without a hitch"
 
It does look awesome....but the weight support isn't high enough on the current models I think. Don't want to always shoot stripped down in the dark @ 1.2, will need daylight shots and with that comes mattebox and filters. (unless you have built in ND's :) ) Adding a wireless transmitter, ff motor, and power to those devices I can't see bringing a epic/scarlet to that 10lb and under limit.

Current models look perfect for DSLRs, but I'm interested in the price of the M20 then which seems to be the practical model for production

But then again...this thing is built for tiny cameras, and the cool part is handing off to other ops and floating the cam around the scene, which as you add weight becomes more cumbersome.

Still new and amazing idea. I see a bobbing up and down motion in shots, such as in 2:53 which gives me a weird sensation, like the op is fighting the gyro effect
In a few years this tech will mature and come down in price and be an essential kit piece.
 
Concerning the price what's exactly included for 15k, is the joystick and ability for second operator included? Will still need wireless ff and wireless videotransmitter.
I still think this is for relatively light setup, dslr or light epic setup or same sort of weight.
Love also the cab shot, and rollerblade will give very nice shots with this Movi
Hope more info comes after nab. Please lucky people that goes to nab, get to their booth and post comment. thanks a lot
 
Joe Minuni said:
Don't want to always shoot stripped down in the dark @ 1.2, will need daylight shots and with that comes mattebox and filters. (unless you have built in ND's :) ) Adding a wireless transmitter, ff motor, and power to those devices I can't see bringing a epic/scarlet to that 10lb and under limit.
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Yes build in ND's are much needed anyway... wait we have a 2000 iso cam ;-) But a clip on mattebox with one 2.1 IRND is not that heavy. I think it rules out cinema zoom and some heavy cine primes. But sure you sometime need a angenieux 24-240 or so ...
 
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