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New EF 16-35MM F4 IS, Canon's latest joke?

Thanks Jonas. I guess I will have to do some comparison soon. Now on to find someone with the same lens. :)
 
Patrick Grossien said:
I'd let you use mine of you want to test it. You're just a bit too far away from here I guess :)
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Sadly i think you are right. Thanks for the kind offer anyway. :)

Maybe I got a lemon, maybe my expectations are too high :) I guess I would have to do some more comparisons.
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Maybe post some R3Ds and let others look at it to get things in perspective?
 
Two words: sample variance.

In larger quantities at lower price points the quality control procedures and "in spec" tolerances are appropriate to the market segment.

I have the Duclos re-house of the 11-16 T2.8 Tokina and every time I put it up I shake my head at how good it is. I would assume part of the reason is that Paul, Matt and the team at Duclos tested every lens that came in the door to check performance before adding the PL mount, de-clicking, etc.

Cheers - #19
 
Jacek Zakowicz said:
This lens has almost no distortion- the lines are straight.
There is keystoning- of course- but that's just simple physics.
I don't think 15mm Zeiss would be any different unless it' a PC lens.
You can't have field flatness of 100mm lens when your angle of view is 10 times that...
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Sure Jacek.
http://www.canon.com.cn/products/camera/ef/lineup/widezoom/efs1018f4556/img/sample3_zoom.jpg

Give me Zeiss 15 or old Nikon 15mm AIS any day but IS is handy sometimes. Good value for $$$.
 
Well if you are happy with building on top end of the hill(which is undestandable) and especially with the lamp which is virtually in the middle of the shot. Apart from that it is a Dead Meat photo without any organic look. Very plasticky image in my oppinion.
Best think about that lens is IS and price. But hey, give me Nikkor 15mm AIS any day.
 
I am really actually looking froward to the tests between the new Canon EF-S zoom and their old 10-22 f.3.5/4.0. I was to see more sharpness! I LOVED that lens to this day, it was goto for YEARS for shooting freerunning and parkour action and I LOVE it as a still lens as well! Fast autofocus!!

The following is hear-say [/B ]Those bastards wouldn't release the USM info to the other lens makers apparently so it was the fastest still lens for covering sports. This is something I HEARD, Not confirmed but if its true, thats a TRIP!

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Chad Bonanno said:
I am really actually looking froward to the tests between the new Canon EF-S zoom and their old 10-22 f.3.5/4.0.
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I don't have access to the 10-22, so no comparison shots, but surprisingly i got a shipping notification for the 10-18. I didn't expect it so soon.

I'm still really skeptical about it, hehe.
 
Maik Müller said:
I don't have access to the 10-22, so no comparison shots, but surprisingly i got a shipping notification for the 10-18. I didn't expect it so soon.


I'm still really skeptical about it, hehe.
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Definitely post your findings with this lens, either here or in a new thread. I am really curious why they are essentially re-releasing this ultra-ultra wide angle Zoom in the EF-S
flavor again. I wouldnt be so much skeptical , just would NOT have high expectations for this release.... Just like MOST EF-S or DO Canon lenses! hah
 
The 10-18 is a keeper. Having seen the potential on a DSLR and a bit on my Scarlet i have to say it exceeds my expectations by far. It's a specialist lens for some scenarios and it's damn cheap. Even if the IS isn't that strong, there is some stabilization there. Where else can you get a 10-15mm with IS? And it weights near to nothing, i actually like that more than i thought.

Get it while you can. As soon as RED has added support (focus still doesn't work).

My 16-35 has been shipped yesterday and after reading some first impression articles on the web i'm getting more and more excited about that lens. It looks like this beats the older 2.8 in terms of sharpness as the MTF-charts have suggested and some other areas too. It's not a joke, i think thats already a fact.

Can't wait to see what this new generation of IS can do for film.

I just hope it works on RED out of the box. :)
 
I've only read half this thread and I'm glad the O.P. started it as I was kind of wondering the same thing but of course so many people have had such great answers to the question "what use is that?"

Once again it just shows that diversity and having lots of options is a great thing because while it might not be useful to you that is someone out there who it is just the thing for! :)

Freya
 
Lens arrived. IS looks impressive (and works on R3D), it's sharp wide open, it doesn't weight much. Looks like it is a great UWA and handheld/run&gun lens.

AF doesn't work, the profiling doesn't do anything.

EDIT: A manually initiated profiling-process was successful, AF does work now.
 
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Charles Valantin said:
Hi Maik, my heart is torn between the Sigma and this new Canon, what is your felt?
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Hehe, thats my problem. I see value in both and i think i'll keep both.

The Canon gives you 2mm more on the wide end (it's more than it sounds), the IS and FF-coverage. It's really a great handheld/walk-around lens as long as there is enough light. I'll also use it on gimbal-setups in hope the IS is going to add even more smoothness.

The Sigma on the other hand has that superb aperture of 1.8 and is overall such a great lens. It's one of my favorites. It also matches the ART-primes better than the Canon, and those ART primes are my favorite lenses right now. So i can't give that away and i'll put it on my Scarlet as soon as light is forcing me, a shallower depth-of-field is needed or for static shots in combination with the ART primes.

If i had to choose between the two i would prefer the Sigma. But keep in mind, it doesn't fully cover 6k on Dragon at 18mm.
 
Well I really hope the the o p stands down on the canon bashing, It turns out that this is one of the best canon lenses ever and cuts very nicely with the cine primes and zooms. This is going to turn out to be a go to lens for gimbal work. And, fantastic for handheld or shoulder mount. This zoom is near equivalent to any prime in its range including the 17tse. I like it better than the Sigma 18-35. It is better in the corners and lighter. and, 16 is a lot wider than 18. And it has IS. Yes it is F4, but it is sharp wide open and you don't need to stop it down. There are many cams now that can work higher iso, and it is weather sealed.
 
I do not think anybody is "Canon Bashing" here.
We are all glad Canon made a lens Nikon had since 2010. ;-)
 
This thread reminds me of dpreview...

Filming with IS helps a lot in several situations. I am pretty excited about this lens as I can use it in my treks, in boat, in a slow moving vehicle as well. While climbing up a hill for my leopard documentary, I was panting like a dog by the time I reached the top of the hill. In those situations every ounce of weight reduction matters and the IS becomes a big big help. Recently I was shooting for a feature film in location where one can't even carry a rig or tripod. So it was just a camera with a lens without any rigs. In those situations IS helps big time.
 
This "latest joke" from Canon will be on my Dragon / Helix this weekend

Super sharp, IS in a wide L zoom package . . . missing the joke it seems ;-)
 
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