NEW design to chew on...

[Jared VanLeuven]

Curvy baby...

 

[Adrian T.]

Reminds me of Koziol designs... :tongue:
http://welltemperedkitchen.com/koziol.html

 

[Corrado Silveri]

Handle with tally...

 

[Adrian T.]

So much for hijacking a thread... :wink:

 

[Paul Hazlett]

sorry lebowski but that chair does not have enough mounting points

 

[Ace]

 

[Paul Hazlett]

HOLEY chair batman!!!

 

[Matthew Lochman]

Who wants a darth vader saber handle?

Who wants a darth vader saber handle?

could this thread get anymore rediculous?

I think I'll use this camera to make a(nother) version of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GJOVPjhXMY

 

[Michael Brennan]

Under or Over

Under or Over

Jim,
could you post a mockup with the red drive or battery UNDER the lens?
For doc use where no focus kit is used. Shoulder pad may need slide forward to maintain balance.
Its use would exclude larger bodied lenses.

Also, assuming flashcards can be stuffed into non square boxes, how about a curved hipflask shaped flashpak below the lens?



Mike Brennan

 

[Michael Brennan]

The Dark side....

The Dark side....

As much as we like the sunny camera operators side of the camera the connector side of the camera is the side that will have the cable makers busy for some time to come.

For some audio and monitor cables wil be connected as well as a viewfinder cable.

Assuming that we want cables to exit from the back of the camera and over the camera operators right shoulder it would be fun to play with positioning the connectors on the body so the cables running from the front the camera do not interfer with connectors nearer the back.

It may be that postioning them in a series of semi circles would be the best solution. Perhaps they need not be parallel either.

Adressing use of right angle connectors is important as their use saves 1/2 inch or so in overall width.


A lightweight cover to protect the connectors when in doc mode is essential, something that perhaps can slide.

Mike Brennan

 

[Ralph Oshiro]

You can't make a camera the size of the RED ONE and expect to have a place to hardmount everything under the sun to it.

I don't need to mount everything under the sun, just everything that I already mount to a typical ENG/EFP camera set-up (e.g., not sure where I'm going to mount a wireless receiver plate). Here's what I am mounting to my RED:

1. RED LCD on a RED arm, mounted directly to a 1/4-20 receiver on front-left-top of RED camera body. Actually, a more preferred method would be to mount the LCD to a slightly extended top left rail (since the rail mounting may use up that 1/4-20 receiver anyway), providing a much stronger attachment for this vulnerable appendage.
2. The newly designed RED handle (which I love!).
3. Two RED rail crossmembers, supporting two RED rail extended-length top rails (which extend off the back of the camera to "undersling-mount" the HDD+RED brick). May need to mount HDD+RED brick "upsidedown" for HDD cage's bracket to attach properly? Perhaps RED will make an "upsidedown" RED HDD cage for underslung mounting in the future (please?).
4. *Short shotgun mic in a ?????-brand shockmount/bracket (these are typically camera manufacturer-supplied parts, not available from third parties), mounted to RED's ?????
5. *Lectrosonics receiver, mounted on a BEC wireless receiver plate (or hopefully, a RED wireless receiver plate?), mounted to ????? on RED.
6. LED or Kamio, camera-mounted light.

*[I'm sure with the 1000s of RED rail combinations possible, I'll be able to figure something out. But currently, I don't know how I'm going to address mounting these two specific components.]

Any suggestions would be more than welcome!

P.S.

I am not getting the RED base plate/rail because:

A. Would prefer a universal quick-release system (e.g. Sachtler), so that I can use the same quick-release reciever on multiple camera supports, facilitating the near-instantaneous ability to change supports (including a shoulder pad).
B. I plan on only using lens-mounted matte box and filter solutions, since I'll only be shooting with 35mm Nikkors anyway.

 

[Michael Hastings]

Thanks, Ralph and Can I hijack this thread back to a serious design issue?

Thanks, Ralph and Can I hijack this thread back to a serious design issue?

Can I hijack this thread back to a serious design issue? - which is the lack of any reasonable way to hardmount things to the back of the camera.

I'd like to make one more serious push for some threaded hardpoints on the rear of the camera. One solution, if you are hesitant to add any more beef, is to simply take the existing counterbored holes for the screws that mount the backplate to the main body and, instead of fairing them down as they are in the current renders, just leave them solid and thread the counterbore with a larger 1/4-20 or 3/8-16 thread. (The counterbores look to be a half inch or more deep.) This would give anyone that wanted to solidly mount a battery plate, drive plate, wireless mic holder, LCD holder, etc., close to the back an easy way to do it. There seems to be a number of people that want it and I can't see how it is either difficult to do or any big downside for those that don't want to use them.

This is something that is easy to implement at this stage - much more difficult after it is already machined.
PS If for some liability reason you don't want to thread those counterbores just leave them (don't fair them away) so we can if we want to.

Rails/rods are good for several purposes, be it mbs, ff, grips - but not batteries - just look how far that thing stuck out when Matt Trembley or Brook used the camera in handheld mode.

I fear we´ll see some Red-related knockouts in the future...

Put the battery on your belt or in your cargo pants pocket for the lightest, most compact camera config...

Jim

You can't make a camera the size of the RED ONE and expect to have a place to hardmount everything under the sun to it.

I don't need to mount everything under the sun, just everything that I already mount to a typical ENG/EFP camera set-up

let me say upfront: I already said I will definitely be getting the rails as well, but I think there is some use to other configurations. I also feel the way kalone does: that the rails with battery and drive are a bit klugey for some situations. I've shot a lot of different things such as the confined areas of an airplane, or boat; underneath the basket at NBA games; in large crowds; ... etc. where it would be a major hassle to have all that hanging behind you. I don't have the perfect answer, I just know that there are a number of things that would be facilitated by having four threaded screw mount points - I'll call them nubs - on the back just like they have on both sides.

 

[Ralph Oshiro]

So, to summarize (if anyone's still listening), by three big rail-mounting issues/requests are . . .

A. An "upsidedown" RED HDD cage for underslung mounting to top-mounted rails.
B. Short shotgun mic shockmount bracket.
C. Bracket to attach a wireless receiver plate.

 

[Michael Brennan]

cable and connector management

cable and connector management

To summarize my previuos post

Connector protection and cable managment for the "telephone exchange" side of the camera


Mike Brennan