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new canon PL lenses?

Am sure it will happen sooner rather than later...they have a huge
market of 5D and 7D users they can sell them to. All they have to
do is tell people PL mount lenses are better and people will buy them.

There is that one VFX supervisor who is an ASC associate member
and he's been telling them to come out with a set of PL primes
because he thinks the image quality is already there with their cameras.
 
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I don't see it happening. Canon has no PL mount camera products, they are moving toward large sensor (FF35) hybrid stills/motion products, which most PL glass can't cover. The market is moving to fully electronic lenses that can be use both manually or in auto mode.

Canon has a large enough fan base that they can sell anything they make. I'm betting that we see a new line of hybrid still/video lenses from them in the near future. Lenses that appeal to cinematographers/videographers and stills shooters alike. Essentially what RED is aiming for with their RED FF35 Electronic Lenses.

OTOH, if they released PL mount versions of all their current L lenses and put gears on them, they would sell a ship load over night.
 
"ship load" heheh thats funny
 
I seriously doubt it. Why do that when Red, for example, is making a Canon mount for Epic?

I do wish the Canon EF mount was more sturdy and stable, though. It's a super flimsy mount.
 
Canon makes EC (cinema) and ENG (broadcast) lenses for 2/3" cameras. After it's competitor in this area, Fujinon announced beautiful PL lenses, I see it more likely than not that Canon will come up with PL glass. Just pure speculation, but considering product parity with Fujinon, I think the idea has merit.
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
I don't see it happening. Canon has no PL mount camera products, they are moving toward large sensor (FF35) hybrid stills/motion products, which most PL glass can't cover. The market is moving to fully electronic lenses that can be use both manually or in auto mode.

Canon has a large enough fan base that they can sell anything they make. I'm betting that we see a new line of hybrid still/video lenses from them in the near future. Lenses that appeal to cinematographers/videographers and stills shooters alike. Essentially what RED is aiming for with their RED FF35 Electronic Lenses.

OTOH, if they released PL mount versions of all their current L lenses and put gears on them, they would sell a ship load over night.
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Possibly a hybrid mount like the compact primes?

Btw I live very close to Gregory Mirand of lumatech and have promoted having a slr cp2 type mount version of his new lenses, should hear more after his trip to Russia in a few weeks. They are pretty cool lenses - modern optics, Schott glass, RPP price, superspeed t1.3, and they just upgraded to new ball bearing mechanics.
 
Why not.
They did it once; and it's still one of the best glass out there.
Zeiss with the Compact primes are doing very well; especially with the ef mount...
They are not in a competition with their direct clients.
The market of video/dslrs is huge.
None of the photo mounts are made to be efficiently and reliably used on the set.


http://www.canonrumors.com/2010/08/canon-pl-lenses-cr1/
 
Sorry! I misread; thought the question was about L series lenses!

Don't know about PL Canon lenses, but the new D60 seems like a good back-up and slow-motion camera for the 5DII.

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
PL

PL

Canon is in a very good position to take Full advantage of this DSLR craze, but can they do it?

They should come out with a "cine set" of lenses for they're own DSLR product line. How tough would it be.... they have the manufacturing, and the glass already... they could package the L series primes and zooms into a housing with focus gears, and long throw focus rings with stops at the limits. The would sell thousands of these lenses. If they made PL versions.... OMG, look out below in the market for high priced PL glass. But I don't think they will, its such a departure from they're comfort zone.

Next generation "hybrid" DSLR camera SHOULD have better monitoring options, XLR audio inputs (exterior level controls) and they need to look at a stronger codec (if possible). If they head towards the "motion" camera shooter's needs, they would take a lot of potential Red Scarlett buyers if they can get to it soon, otherwise many frustrated DSLR shooters (pro's who understand the difference) will migrate to the "cinema friendlier" Scarlett camera even if it cost more.

Canon could really do some damage to the market at this level if they step up and smell the coffee, but I'm not so sure they have the mind set to take these steps. They don't seem to have a "cine" mentality, and business model. Canon is used to thinking in terms of hundreds of thousands of copies, not a few thousand. I'm not sure they understand what they have in they're hands, or how to capitalize on it. We will soon see, but I have my doubts they can swing to a different business model to capitalize on the "motion" potential. BUT as someone said before they did "step up" with "cine style" video, and 16mm lenses, (Id guess didn't sell thousands of copies) but did they make money from those efforts, is probably the question? Id guess the revenue figures for the "film style" (relative to the video versions of those lenses)... possibly looks paltry, so could be a non-motivator for Canon to branch out.

If they don't step up on the camera side I expect Red and Scarlett to come in and steal a decent size slice of pie away from the DSLR movement. Its just too awkward to use these cameras in the current state and the codec sucks, so the market is ripe to pluck in the next wave.... by whoever steps it up to the next level with 35mm cine style camera with the features we need. Looks like Pany and Sony are both headed this way as well, but these 2 companies have they're issues.

Interesting times, for sure!
 
Maybe stupid but I always wonder- why can't Canon take the XL 1 body and just put the 5D MKII 'engine' in there so that we have an XL1 that can shoot video like the MKII..? Please crucify me gently. I'm not a technical guy.
 
Lipstick on a pig

Lipstick on a pig

Here's the thing - HDSLR cameras in this
Generation are kinda neat - great for one man band operations and very small scale production, once you try to integrate them into full-scale Hollywood productions where client monitoring is not "optional" and anything beyond a 720p master is required then you are in a world of hurt.

When it takes 10 minutes to go from low mode handheld to studio with follow focus major money is lost because of the time it takes. 10 minutes can cost several thousand dollars. A way bigger cost than the purported "savings" created by shooting with a 5D or 7D. They do make great insert or "director/operator" cams.

Epic will take the form factor convenience of these cams and decimate them in terms of usability and image quality. ~IF~ red gets the accessories and accessory interfaces right. Hopefully this is why they are taking their time with the release, to make them usable, reliable and stable out of the gate unlike prosumer dslrs being forced into professional environments where they fall apart completely.
 
EF Mount really was not meant to handle the torque of follow focus pulling constantly. If they made the lenses in EF mount and then allowed control of the internal motors of the lens then they solve the problem of EF mount not being as solid as a PL design. No more pressure on the mount. That would be a smart way to go. Or they would have to come up with an updated EF mount sort of like the Optitek style Nikon mount. You also have the problem of the camera body when attached to dslr baseplates and current rigs still is not held solid. The new Viewfactor cage actually does solve this problem with it attaching from top & bottom. So Canon would need to come up with a camera body that has a solid base and a solid mount and a set of EF mount lenses with control of the motors for focusing.
 
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