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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

New Build 16 features...

Casey Green said:
Very excited by all the new features in Build 16, especially Programmable User Buttons.

Quick question:

Is FALSE COLOR one of the options available for assigning to the USER BUTTONS?

A lot of people (including ourselves) were really hoping for this... did it make it in?
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Stuart English said:
Yes, sir.
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Thanks, Stuart!

Can't wait to try it out. On-set workflow will be much smoother with quick access to these features. :)
 
Anders Holck said:
Very very nice release!

The QT codec does seem to exhibit some problems with _F and _H sizes.
Here is a 4k 16:9 _H proxy in two different apps:
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I saw this in compressor too. I have not tried to see if it was a render problem as well or just a display issue.

Have you tried to render this?

Is it in 2:1 Shots too?

David
 
For all those worried about speed... from what I saw at WWDC, Apple is making huge strides to speed up the OS at the core. OpenCL should be a game changer for anyone rendering red footage. In their demo OpenCL was 120x faster than using cpu's for a galaxy simulation, and thats on todays video cards. Figure by the time 10.6 is released, gpu's would have doubled in processor speed.

Me thinks M$ is gonna be lagging far behind...

Ben
 
Edge Color

Edge Color

But Edge Focus assist got eliminated? It used to be on a EVF button but now it's just gone from all buttons and can't be programmed. That had to be the second most requested button behind False Color.
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No, the COLOR choice allows you to choose one or the other of those i.e COLOR On/ Off is FALSE COLOR or EDGE COLOR depending on the setting you make in the VIEWFINDER menu.
 
Bena said:
For all those worried about speed... from what I saw at WWDC, Apple is making huge strides to speed up the OS at the core. OpenCL should be a game changer for anyone rendering red footage. In their demo OpenCL was 120x faster than using cpu's for a galaxy simulation, and thats on todays video cards. Figure by the time 10.6 is released, gpu's would have doubled in processor speed.

Me thinks M$ is gonna be lagging far behind...

Ben
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Not to denigrate any of Apple's efforts... but if you believe all the promises and power in a canned demonstration of a technology preview without any user interaction, then I've got some river property in the Mojave to sell you. : )

Best,

Lucas
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ASSIMILATE, inc.
LA, CA, USA
 
Stuart English said:
No, the COLOR choice allows you to choose one or the other of those i.e COLOR On/ Off is FALSE COLOR or EDGE COLOR depending on the setting you make in the VIEWFINDER menu.
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Thanks, that's better. But if I want Button 1 to be Edge Focus and Button 2 to be False Color it's not possible?
 
Lucas,

I am under NDA, but Apple is serious about speeding up their OS, and from all the things I saw, they are going to crank up the speed. I would not call what I saw canned demonstration. And since I have 10.6 now, I can tell you it is not a Tech Preview.

OpenCL is going to make it very easy for any High Level programer to tap the processing power in GPU's without knowing how to code specifically for Cuda or directly to the metal of the GPU. This is something I bet a lot of PS3 programers would love to have.

My point is Apple is working on building a faster OS and not adding any significant features, creating a new foundation for the OS that should show significant speed increases that will allow companies like mine and Red 's to do things much faster and much easier.

My feeling is M$ is drowning in their own code and it won't get better anytime soon. Hell, Ballmer just announced that if you Buy Vista, they will let you downgrade to XP!!!! I guess that is how M$ is going to get their 30% speed increase, DOWNgrade to the previous OS.

But this is not a flame war... Just letting the masses know that Apple is working to make things like rendering RED footage faster.

Ben
 
Bena said:
Lucas,

I am under NDA, but Apple is serious about speeding up their OS, and from all the things I saw, they are going to crank up the speed. I would not call what I saw canned demonstration. And since I have 10.6 now, I can tell you it is not a Tech Preview.

OpenCL is going to make it very easy for any High Level programer to tap the processing power in GPU's without knowing how to code specifically for Cuda or directly to the metal of the GPU. This is something I bet a lot of PS3 programers would love to have.

My point is Apple is working on building a faster OS and not adding any significant features, creating a new foundation for the OS that should show significant speed increases that will allow companies like mine and Red 's to do things much faster and much easier.

My feeling is M$ is drowning in their own code and it won't get better anytime soon. Hell, Ballmer just announced that if you Buy Vista, they will let you downgrade to XP!!!! I guess that is how M$ is going to get their 30% speed increase, DOWNgrade to the previous OS.

But this is not a flame war... Just letting the masses know that Apple is working to make things like rendering RED footage faster.

Ben
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Fair 'nuf. Cool... : )

Lucas
 
Wow, this build is amazing! Thanks to all of you geniuses at Red!
 
Bena said:
My feeling is M$ is drowning in their own code and it won't get better anytime soon. Hell, Ballmer just announced that if you Buy Vista, they will let you downgrade to XP!!!! I guess that is how M$ is going to get their 30% speed increase, DOWNgrade to the previous OS.

But this is not a flame war... Just letting the masses know that Apple is working to make things like rendering RED footage faster.

Ben
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I`m assuming that M$ stands for Microshaft. It would be a mercy flaming. I`ve used windows for years and years, I don`t know why. I can swim, but it only lets me doggy paddle. I`ve gotten used to feeding it ram and mhz though, and I suppose I`ve started feeling sorry for it too. Its like a giant digitally obese virtual pet thats always ill :waaa:
 
visakk said:
Irrespective of problems I still like MS, without their existence, Apple would be charging me $10,000 for the same Mac
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Their (Apple) prices are still unreasonably high.

Odd some people see this as a good thing when the parts are the same as a pc. You're paying for an OS... which is unquestionably better than windows but not perect by itself.

It is not the best but better than windows.
 
Thundercross said:
Their (Apple) prices are still unreasonably high.

Odd some people see this as a good thing when the parts are the same as a pc. You're paying for an OS... which is unquestionably better than windows but not perect by itself.

It is not the best but better than windows.
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whats the best?
 
1080 as "true" P

1080 as "true" P

Jannard said:
* In-camera 1080p playback of REDCODE RAW .R3D files. Jim
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Jim.
I want applaud RED for forcing this issue. All of the camera manufacturers call their 1080 formats "P" when in actuality it PsF or progressive segmented frame (interlace for all intents and purposes).

I recall talking to Ted about this at the very, very early stages of the camera's development after working on a Phantom project that brought the issues to light for me. I am glad that the AJA/ Kona team jumped on this bandwagon 2 years ago to offer this to their users.

Yet, many of the users need to understand that they may encounter playback issues viewing this footage with non-broadcast monitoring, on older or low cost displays that will fail to handle this signal correctly. Most of those displays for sale at Best Buy or Fry's with a "1080p" sticker on them cannot be used, while the Panny (and JVC's) Broadcast displays show the footage correctly, some of their consumer and prosumer models cannot.

thanks again for another shake up the industry.


and let it be the start to the death of interlace.....


gary
 
Thundercross said:
Their (Apple) prices are still unreasonably high.
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Just my experience, but with every update to the Mac Pro I've gone on the major PC manufacturers' websites to configure a comparable workstation, just like Apple did when they intro'ed the first MP at WWDC 2006. Every time, there has been no price advantage for the PC manufacturers. Several times the Mac has come out significantly cheaper, more so if you have a discount (e.g. ADC, NPPA, Education- bought mine with my ADC discount). This is, of course, assuming you're buying 3rd party RAM and HDs.

Even if they were a bit more expensive, I'd rather pay that extra bit for what I get, but I'm not exactly a typical case.
 
Silentwave said:
Even if they were a bit more expensive, I'd rather pay that extra bit for what I get, but I'm not exactly a typical case.
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You're getting the exact same hardware!!

I specced a Mac pro a while back and it was significantly more expensive than the same hardware I could buy for a pc.

Macs are more expensive in about every area.

Just my 0.5 cents worth.:)
 
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