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New Apple iMAC! Discuss...

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Should be a good option. Good connectivity, nice factory-calibrated screen, decent CPU but it is a low-power [mobile] CPU, fast storage with SSD cacheing... Respectable mobile type GPU.

All things considered, it should run Premiere quite well as it's essentially a MBPretina on steroids. Pretty much what I was expecting them to release, but I was expecting a quad-HD "retina" display for the 21" model. Oh, well, maybe next time.


For what it's worth, the current [2011] iMac handles Premiere CS6 quite well and it doesn't have an nVidia CUDA GPU. The new iMac adds a CPU that's 10% faster per clock, RAM that's 15% faster, SSD caching and CUDA support. I'm giving it a thumbs up, but will reserve final judgement until I get my hands on one to see how it holds up under serious torture.

To make the current iMac really sing for R3D and other demanding workflows, you need some good external storage. These new models will be no different.
 
It's a nice looking machine, I wonder how the 680 will perform with Premiere. Will it be any noticeable difference to the 675 you think?
 
Like the look of these very much. Thought i'd be picking up a 13'' Macbook Pro Retina after today, but with no quad core and integrated graphics only in those i'm reconsidering. The 27" iMac with 768GB SSD on the other hand might prove too hard to resist. Can see myself selling up the 08 Mac Pro and crossing over to one of those asap.
 
Agree Jeff.

External Storage will be key.

I'm thinking Thunderbolt ESATA for 2 Raid Enclosures.

Really liking Imac option over a MacPro System for on site editing for 2-3 week long gigs. Having an assitant managing media with macbook pro and then editing on the Imac could be quite nice and easy to transport over Mac Pro Tower + Monitor
 
Is there a big difference for Premiere workflow with these 2 different graphic cards?


NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
Configurable to NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX with 2GB of GDDR5 memory.
 
Is the top end model also mobile CPU? This one > 3.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz)with 8MB L3 cache
 
Oh man I was SOO excited when the 13" MacBook Pro Retina was announced but then my heart sank when I saw max 8gb RAM, dual core CPU and integrated graphics. NOOOO! (15" is just too big for me to carry around everywhere). Maybe I will stick with my Macbook Air and do the top end iMac instead.

Would love to see how Adobe Warp and REDcine-X Alchemy perform on both.
 
not bad... but Mac Pros are in 2013 so I think I'll be staying where I am until then.
 
Since Apple is now using Kepler GPUs, I wonder if there will be better Mac drivers, and I wonder if that will carry over to the desktop versions of these cards. Until now, a GTX680 in a Mac Pro isn't much better, if at all, than a GTX580 for Davinci Resolve. Could this mean we will now start seeing a bigger difference between the two?
 
The new iMacs seem to be excellent consumer machines with slick design and good performance for the price. They are not workstation class solutions but can fake it up to a point and thereby fill an important niche. There are many situations where a MacPro with Rocket, RAID card and muscular GPU (or a Windows screamer) is the only viable way to meet client expectations. That said, there are times that simply being able to scrub footage in RCX-Pro on a decent sized display, rough cut in FCPX (or other NLE) and lots of fast IO is all you really need.

Will be curious to hear how the new iMacs compare to the newest laptops in terms of writing proxies in the background, transcoding, etc. Also would like to see how much of the Thunderbolt (TB) spec can be achieved in the real world and whether the iMacs have any more throughput than the TB port on my Air.

Hopefully some RedUser will get one, hook up a TB based PCIe host with a Rocket & hot GPU in it then run some benchmarks. If hooking up the right periphreals could make the iMac a viable substitute for a tower then it offers a nice scalable solution. For fast moving, lower budget, not going to transcode until a later time, etc then just bring the iMac and hook up external storage. If expectations (and hopefully budget) are greater, then bring the TB expansion box. Depending on the size and scope of your operation you could potentially have several iMacs and MBPros to go out with your packages but only one or two TB expansion boxes for projects where immediate transcodes and/or other more demanding tasks are required.

Cheers - #19
 
My 27'' iMac with Sonnet box and SSDs is already replacing the tower for about 95% of jobs which, in these parts, are fairly mobile. CUDA support has been the missing link, but this should seal the deal. I'm excited for it. The Mac is coming back.
 
Resolve requires/recommends 2GB of video card memory for 4K, so I would suggest that would be required update if you use resolve.
 
Meryem Ersoz said:
My 27'' iMac with Sonnet box and SSDs is already replacing the tower for about 95% of jobs which, in these parts, are fairly mobile. CUDA support has been the missing link, (snip)
Click to expand...

I think we are approaching a sea change in how we interact with data. Laptop vs iPad, touchscreen vs keyboard/mouse, TV vs YouTube, etc. For $20 I can put more data on a tiny USB stick than I could hold in a full sized tower computer not that long ago.

My prognostication is that heavy storage and processing chores will be housed in utilitarian boxes in racks/closets/under desks/on carts but will be interfaced with via tablets/laptops/remotes/gestures. I think that will extend to what we do. For many folks the "Cloud" and their personal devices will make what we know as computer hardware antiquated rather quickly. For digital media folks like us the data load will make that topology impractical for quite some time, but we can hijack the paradigm.

With a proper server and remote client access via tablet/laptop/phone the only remaining critical element is the display. I bring this all up in the iMac thread because the most meaningful thing it offers vs a Retina lapper is the bigger screen size. Unless there is going to be a major redesign of the wetware, that still matters.

Cheers - #19
 
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