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Need some help with missing Red One components

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Nasim Mansurov

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Good morning,

I apologize if I wrote in a wrong forum, but I did not know where else to post it, given my situation.

Basically, our company bought a Red One camera under tight deadlines and after Red told us that it would be shipped within a few weeks, we immediately placed the order for the camera on March 16, 2010. The majority of the camera parts were shipped on April 9, 2010, but the two parts that are currently on backorder with no definite ETA are the Red Drive and Red LCD. Because we thought that we would receive everything on time, we went ahead and put together a tight plan with our production team. At this point, we are in a desperate situation, because our camera is inoperable without the drive and the LCD and the production team is ready to walk away from the job if we cannot get the parts within the next two weeks.

My questions are:
1) Can we use high speed compact flash cards to record video? If we can, do we need to buy any adapters?
2) Can we use any third party LCDs that work with Red One and can be purchased right away?

If you have a spare LCD/HDD that you want to get rid off, please PM me with the pricing information as soon as possible.

Thank you very much and I apologize once again for my post.


Sincerely,
Nasim Mansurov
 
1) The vast majority of CF cards aren't fast enough to read/write Red data. You're best bet is to rent a drive for your shoot. Where abouts are you?

2) Any monitor with a HDSDI, or HDMI input will work. You may not get the on screen menu options, but you'll get an image.
 
If you have the Red Flash CF module on your camera I would recommend the Red 16GB CF cards. Or you can post a message in the Jobs... section of the forum with "WTB: Red Drives" in the title.

You can use third-party LCD monitors but i don't think it is ideal for on-camera use. First of all you can't use the proprietary Red LCD output. You have to use HDSDI or HDMI and you need to supply power.
 
Thank you very much for your reply Colin!

Colin Sheldon said:
1) The vast majority of CF cards aren't fast enough to read/write Red data. You're best bet is to rent a drive for your shoot. Where abouts are you?
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How about the new SanDisk Extreme Pro series that can write 90mb/s, are those too slow for the camera? Unfortunately, we will be shooting in Iran and renting is not a good option.

Colin Sheldon said:
2) Any monitor with a HDSDI, or HDMI input will work. You may not get the on screen menu options, but you'll get an image.
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Do you know of any monitors that work on batteries? I do not think we will have the capability to run power to the location where we will be shooting :(

I really appreciate your help
 
Curran Giddens said:
If you have the Red Flash CF module on your camera I would recommend the Red 16GB CF cards. Or you can post a message in the Jobs... section of the forum with "WTB: Red Drives" in the title.

You can use third-party LCD monitors but i don't think it is ideal for on-camera use. First of all you can't use the proprietary Red LCD output. You have to use HDSDI or HDMI and you need to supply power.
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Curran, thank you so much for your reply. Yes, power is going to be a problem when shooting in remote locations :(
 
Nasim Mansurov said:
Good morning,

I apologize if I wrote in a wrong forum, but I did not know where else to post it, given my situation.

Basically, our company bought a Red One camera under tight deadlines and after Red told us that it would be shipped within a few weeks, we immediately placed the order for the camera on March 16, 2010. The majority of the camera parts were shipped on April 9, 2010, but the two parts that are currently on backorder with no definite ETA are the Red Drive and Red LCD. Because we thought that we would receive everything on time, we went ahead and put together a tight plan with our production team. At this point, we are in a desperate situation, because our camera is inoperable without the drive and the LCD and the production team is ready to walk away from the job if we cannot get the parts within the next two weeks.

My questions are:
1) Can we use high speed compact flash cards to record video? If we can, do we need to buy any adapters?
2) Can we use any third party LCDs that work with Red One and can be purchased right away?

If you have a spare LCD/HDD that you want to get rid off, please PM me with the pricing information as soon as possible.

Thank you very much and I apologize once again for my post.


Sincerely,
Nasim Mansurov
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As far as cf cards, I use the Lexar 8gb. It's the only non-red that works that I know of. Check this thread out: http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=38478&highlight=lexar+cf

As far as monitors, you can use a 1080p pc monitor. I use a Dell monitor. Obviously not for camera held work. =)
 
I was going to recommend the SmallHD DP1 monitor- but they are on backorder until at least May 30th.

If you look at B&H Photo's On camera LCD monitors, they note which models are compatible with RED. They seem to list two categories. " Displays Full RED Menus" whcih means it supports every feature, or "RED Compatible" which means you get a picture, but it may be cropped, or not display menus. Many compatible models will run with camcorder batteries, although they may need an adaptor of some sort. Some can take power, with another adaptor, from the RED. I've seen people doing that for various devices, but haven't done it myself.

As far as CF cards go, you definitely want the RED cards. No seriously.

The "fast" CF cards from companies like Sandisk are not reliable when used with the RED One. I've heard, all second hand mind you, that the cards either won't work, or if they do work they drop frames.

I'd like to repeat that I haven't tested them myself, so that may all be BS. The last time I tried a CF card (Sandisk 30MB/s 4GB card) it didn't work at all.

The main reason the common CF cards don't work is that the data rate they list is peak reading speed. REDCODE 28 needs 28MB/s of sustained write speed. (Check with AJA or BlackMagic's disk utilities.)

On a side note, not useful to you:

I still wish we had a REDCODE 15 or something else like that that could be reliably used with non-RED CF cards. It would be a relatively crappy image compared to what we get out of RED now. Sometimes you are in a pinch, and if your final product is 2K or lower resolution, well it would almost certainly be better than AVC-Intra DVCPRO HD or XDCAM or HDCAM.
 
Only the 300x Lexar 8 gigs are Red approved outside of Red branded CF cards. Don't waste your time or money. The data rates published might seem to be adequate, but the camera will not recognize the cards.

If you have AC power -- or inverterr power, there are a lot of very inexpensive computer monitors (720p sufficient) that will work with the HDMI out and give you the full menu and lookaround. Get an HDMI pigtail so there is no stress on the HDMI port -- it is delicate and weak (and HDMI is a crappy cable interface anyway) -- HDMI to DVI cables work fine. Not elegant, but it works and gives you full menu view. There are various notations on this forum of ones that work. (I know the search function not the greatest, but maybe people will give you some specifics.)

There are people selling Red LCDs and Red EVFs here fairly often, so you might be able to pick them up.

Good luck. That must be truly frustrating.
 
What a great community of Red users, thanks so much to everyone!

I'm contacting Van Royko.
 
'Only the 300x Lexar 8 gigs are Red approved outside of Red branded CF cards. Don't waste your time or money. The data rates published might seem to be adequate, but the camera will not recognize the cards. '

Rod, your statement seems to relate that the Lexar 300x cards are Red approved but the camera will not recognize them. Is this true?
 
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