Michael McCaffrey
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Hey guys, been shooting for years on the BMD cameras incl the original 12K. I have 5 EF mount zoom lenses that work for Super35 sensors. That’s what I have. What I’m wanting to do is shoot a docu-drama, probably 6K anamorphic. I would shoot 8K only when doing green screen virtual production as it allows me to push in more in post. Since the lenses are EF, whichever camera I get Im looking at the KipperTie RF to EF ND Revolva Adpater/Filter.
That Said, here are my thoughts/questions that I need help sorting out:
QUESTIONS:
1. I understand if I get the Raptor-VV, I can use all my existing lenses but only at 6K resolutions and below. Also that I cannot shoot anamorphic at 6K and below, but only at 8K. Does that sound right?
2. If true, what are the differences or trade-offs between shooting 6K cropped on the Raptor-VV vs shooting 8K using the full sensor on the Raptor S35? Any image quality differences, light sensitivity, noise levels, etc?
3. Is there a difference between shooting 6K cropped on the VV vs 6K cropped on the S35?
4. I understand the VV sensor is larger and has better light sensitivity. I have not however, seen any comparisons on this online whatsoever. So how different they are is a mystery. Does the difference in light sensitivity or noise levels vary much between the VV and S35 cameras?
5. If I did get the Raptor-VV and need a new lens, what would be best? Stick with EF and keep ND functionality with the KipperTie or move to RF? Is there such a thing as an RF to RF mount that adds ND functionality?
6. I see RED has an RF to PL Mount with electronic NDs. Is there an RF to EF mount with electronic NDs? Is one coming? Seems like it would be a hot item.
7. Would ideally like an anamorphic lens that covers the whole sensor and delivers a 2.4:1 aspect ratio. For that it seems a 1.3x anamorphic lens would be best, allowing me to use most of the sensor without throwing away too much of the image. Are there any good budget 1.3x anamorphic lenses? I cant really find any. Viltrox makes one but its huge and pricey.
WHAT IM THINKING CURRENTLY:
At this point, Im thinking that the Raptor-VV would probably be the better option? Although I dont have any glass to shoot 8K, I am perfectly fine shooting 6K anamorphic (on the Super35 Laowa Nanomorphs) for now, and just getting a spherical FF lens for 8K green screen work when I need it. It seems like the Raptor-VV would then allow me the most options for anamorphic at 6K and below whereas the S35 camera does not (since it only supports anamorphic at 8K). I guess Im just not sure what the trad-offs will be in filming at 6K cropped. I dont usually like filming cropped bc artifacts and noise usually show up more. If I bought the S35 camera, I’d almost dread being locked into shooting the docudrama at 8K in order to shoot anamorphic (and it would be a bear to edit in post) but it would use the whole sensor. What do you guys think?
Hey guys, been shooting for years on the BMD cameras incl the original 12K. I have 5 EF mount zoom lenses that work for Super35 sensors. That’s what I have. What I’m wanting to do is shoot a docu-drama, probably 6K anamorphic. I would shoot 8K only when doing green screen virtual production as it allows me to push in more in post. Since the lenses are EF, whichever camera I get Im looking at the KipperTie RF to EF ND Revolva Adpater/Filter.
That Said, here are my thoughts/questions that I need help sorting out:
QUESTIONS:
1. I understand if I get the Raptor-VV, I can use all my existing lenses but only at 6K resolutions and below. Also that I cannot shoot anamorphic at 6K and below, but only at 8K. Does that sound right?
2. If true, what are the differences or trade-offs between shooting 6K cropped on the Raptor-VV vs shooting 8K using the full sensor on the Raptor S35? Any image quality differences, light sensitivity, noise levels, etc?
3. Is there a difference between shooting 6K cropped on the VV vs 6K cropped on the S35?
4. I understand the VV sensor is larger and has better light sensitivity. I have not however, seen any comparisons on this online whatsoever. So how different they are is a mystery. Does the difference in light sensitivity or noise levels vary much between the VV and S35 cameras?
5. If I did get the Raptor-VV and need a new lens, what would be best? Stick with EF and keep ND functionality with the KipperTie or move to RF? Is there such a thing as an RF to RF mount that adds ND functionality?
6. I see RED has an RF to PL Mount with electronic NDs. Is there an RF to EF mount with electronic NDs? Is one coming? Seems like it would be a hot item.
7. Would ideally like an anamorphic lens that covers the whole sensor and delivers a 2.4:1 aspect ratio. For that it seems a 1.3x anamorphic lens would be best, allowing me to use most of the sensor without throwing away too much of the image. Are there any good budget 1.3x anamorphic lenses? I cant really find any. Viltrox makes one but its huge and pricey.
WHAT IM THINKING CURRENTLY:
At this point, Im thinking that the Raptor-VV would probably be the better option? Although I dont have any glass to shoot 8K, I am perfectly fine shooting 6K anamorphic (on the Super35 Laowa Nanomorphs) for now, and just getting a spherical FF lens for 8K green screen work when I need it. It seems like the Raptor-VV would then allow me the most options for anamorphic at 6K and below whereas the S35 camera does not (since it only supports anamorphic at 8K). I guess Im just not sure what the trad-offs will be in filming at 6K cropped. I dont usually like filming cropped bc artifacts and noise usually show up more. If I bought the S35 camera, I’d almost dread being locked into shooting the docudrama at 8K in order to shoot anamorphic (and it would be a bear to edit in post) but it would use the whole sensor. What do you guys think?
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