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Need a reliable haze machine that can last longer

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Manikantan Krishnamachary

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Hey guys,

I am assisting a DP for a feature film in India and we need a haze machine that is reliable and can create haze for about 50m and can last longer.
Its a horror-thriller movie and we are expecting a "Sleepy Hollow" feel through out the film. If anybody is renting out haze machines please notify me. Also we are ready to purchase one if compatible. I appreciate your help.

Thanks
Manikantan
 
well... do you want haze.. or..?

well... do you want haze.. or..?

Ok.. first off.. Haze and fog are two different things.
Haze droplets are less visible to the naked eye, and are more like evenly spread floating ND.. though they soften the overall look. It is not usually visible in and of itself

Fog is the spooky, smoky look that is visible in its own right.

THe DF-50 is a great machine for large volumes of smoke that you can dissipate to approximate haze for some purposes.

LeMaitre makes a great reliable haze machine
http://www.lemaitreltd.com/p/Neutron-Hazer/F1SwWDBLqy4

if you can afford it, you probably want both. the Neutron for glamour shots, and the Df-50 for visible steam/smoke clouds..

and then.. there's ground effect smoke... which you make with a whole other process and equipment..
 
As it is my first time, i'm not much aware of which creates the spooky feel but as you mentioned fog machines, especially like the freeze fog should do. Thank you Christopher.
 
To what Christopher correctly said, I'll add, that when in need and with little to no extra budget left but need to absolutely make the "FOG" stay low, and not fly up or dispears upwards too fast, all you need to do is get a large Ice Bucket, place two holes in it, and run the extra long Pump, thru it, make a as big and as menu circles with it inside as possible, while leaving plenty of space to fill the bucket with ice.

Close the Bucket full of ice with the copied Fog pump jun it, and within few minutes you can then run the Fog machine which now will still produce the same Fog, but once it traveled to the ICED coiled Pump out to e Ice bucket will be much cooler and heavier in its structure which has now been changed by the cooler temperature, this will cause/allow the fog to disperse in a float low like way.

Also to note an important FACT, there are many liquid types that you can fill up your Machines with, just be ABSOLUTELY sure that when using it indoors you buy the more expensive type liquids which are SAFE for indoors, as some liquids can and will cause arm to eyes and longs in long indoor exposures.
 
but need to absolutely make the "FOG" stay low, and not fly up or dispears upwards too fast, all you need to do is get a large Ice Bucket, place two holes in it, and run the extra long Pump, thru it, make a as big and as menu circles with it inside as possible, while leaving plenty of space to fill the bucket with ice.

Close the Bucket full of ice with the copied Fog pump jun it, and within few minutes you can then run the Fog machine which now will still produce the same Fog, but once it traveled to the ICED coiled Pump out to e Ice bucket will be much cooler and heavier in its structure which has now been changed by the cooler temperature, this will cause/allow the fog to disperse in a float low like way.
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Wow Ketch... I've had a fog machine for years and never tried this. I will soon. Thanks for the heads up.

I would assume that metal pipe would work better than plastic?
 
Frank Weeks said:
Wow Ketch... I've had a fog machine for years and never tried this. I will soon. Thanks for the heads up.

I would assume that metal pipe would work better than plastic?
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He he, this we first did when shooting a photo-shoot on my old Canon film camera, with a very old fog machine, likely and possibly one of the very first ones, as I remember it was just huge and heavy, we were in a dock at the NY arbor, and we really needed the fog to tay low, funny thing is that it was by accident, I worked at a Pizza place back then 89, called Tiramisu, and I was not the main photographer but the back up, and had brought a tone of ice for a completely different purpose.

Fact is that I dropped all the ice over a plastic sheet which itself was laid accidentally over a hose, which happened to be the whose of the Fog Machine...

Long story short, as they were arguing how we could make the fog not fly away and up so fast, no solution was found, yet when they said well, lets just shoot it one more time...

BINGO...

It looked like a cemetery scene from an old horror movie, completely doe my error...

Neither myself nor any one there knew this would work... But it did.


And yes Frank,

the colder the better, so if the actual hose is out of metal then it will cool faster and also transmit cooler and keep cooler longer...

Just needs to be said, I since done so many tests and shoots, that I found out, it really varies how the Fog behaves depending on how cold the actual hose is kept, the colder, the lower it stays and the longer it takes to disperse.

Also the colder it is the thicker it looks.
 
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