Native FCP Support for Build 17?

[Jordan Livingston]

Does anyone know (or have an educated guess) when we can expect native REDCODE support of Build 17 footage within Final Cut Studio? The FCS plugin download seems to have been neglected for a while...

I have a short film (~12 mins) that wishes to use the following workflow:

- FCP Native 'offline' edit (REDCODE in QT wrappers)
- Export Native footage to Color for grade
- Render Color output to DPX
- 'Online' (titles, dissolves, crop to 1.85:1, etc.) DPX files in After Effects
- Downconvert to HD 1080p 10-bit using either After Effects or Compressor (haven't decided which yet)

In my view, this is by far the best workflow for maintaining maximum quality throughout post - especially for a short form project without any real storage space issues. I'd really rather not add the extra step of generating offline ProRes files for FCP, only to later manually conform back to REDCODE prior to grading in Color.

That being said, I do need to start cutting soon, so if FCP support for Build 17 isn't on its way, I will have no choice... Is anybody in the loop on this?

- Jordan

P.S. As an editor, post supervisor, and DIT - I LOVE the RED... I can't wait for Scarlet and Epic cameras!

 

[Uli Plank]

There is a minor bug currently, but it has a workaround.

Bring one of your clips into REDAlert, click on "Defaults" and add a first-light (if needed). This makes the black files from build 17 visible. Save the preset or a few of them for different first lights and use them in FCP for ingest.

Hope this helps.

 

[Jordan Livingston]

There is a minor bug currently, but it has a workaround.

Bring one of your clips into REDAlert, click on "Defaults" and add a first-light (if needed). This makes the black files from build 17 visible. Save the preset or a few of them for different first lights and use them in FCP for ingest.

Hope this helps.

Hi Uli,

I tried this and I still receive an error message when trying to import Build 17 media via "Log And Transfer." Is there something obvious that I'm missing?

- Jordan

 

[Uli Plank]

What does the message say?

 

[Jordan Livingston]

What does the message say?

My apologies for the long delay in getting back to you... I don't recall what the message said verbatim, but it was something about an 'unsupported format.' After clicking "ok" the Log and Transfer window just hangs indefinitely.

I think I'm going to have to move forward with the ProRes HQ files rather than the native R3D. I know I can always go back to online R3D later, but we had an amazing workflow ready to go that saved a lot of storage space and time by not having to convert all of our rushes. Oh well. :-(

- Jordan

 

[Uli Plank]

Are you pointing L&T directly to the .RDM folder? L&T doesn't seem to look very deep into the folder structure, I got that "unsupported format" too, when pointing to a higher folder.

 

[Jordan Livingston]

Are you pointing L&T directly to the .RDM folder? L&T doesn't seem to look very deep into the folder structure, I got that "unsupported format" too, when pointing to a higher folder.

Okay, I just tried this again, drilling down all the way to the ".RDC" folder. The message I receive is as follows:

"A001_C001_0129B2.RDC" contains unsupported media or has an invalid directory structure. Please choose a folder whose directory structure matches supported media."​

When I select the ".RDM" folder, I suddenly see my clips! But not all of my RDM folders, only some of them! This is further than I've gotten before... any idea why some folders show up and others do not?

- Jordan

 

[Uli Plank]

Any fancy symbols in your paths? Try to stick to ASCII, I even use underline instead of spaces – it's UNIX under the hood…

 

[Tim Fassnacht]

I might be missing something but... I just offline/onlined a music video with Hans' Clipfinder workflow (Transcoded Offline files back to> Native L&T > Color >FCP) without any issues.....

Build 17 footy. 2 cameras, very long takes. No issues....

:huh:

 

[Hans-Georg Daun]

FWIW, you might want to try the latest Clipfinder release, as described in this post
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26302
The new release allows you to collect all .RDC folders for selected clips into a single directory to ingest from. It also allows you to clean up the mess afterwards.
If your material is distributed across multiple drives you need to repeat the procedure described in the post for each drive.

Cheers,
Hans

 

[Jordan Livingston]

Hi All,

So, I got the clips to work, finally! I had to do it one .RDC folder at a time for some reason. Perhaps I'm not organizing my folder structure correctly? Here's how I do it (comments welcome):

PROJECT FOLDER ("Name_Of_Movie")

DAY OF SHOOT ("day01_02-20-09")

CAMERA ROLL ("A001_01281B.RDM")

RDC FOLDERS ("A001_C001_0129B2.RDC")

I'm also disappointed to learn that FCP generates an entirely new set of "native" files. My hope was that by editing native, I could avoid the long 'ingest' time, and ALSO - could continue to one-light correct in RED Alert (using the original camera files) and would see those changes reflected in Final Cut Pro and in Color... Too much to ask, I suppose.

- Jordan