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Mystery lens mount!

Clint Lealos

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Can anyone help me identify what kind of mount these lenses are housed in? Also, there is a picture of the lens mount that went on the camera. I have very little knowledge of vintage glass, but I would love to know if there is an adaptor. These housing are in very nice condition and would be very useful if I could mount these bad boys to a Red One. FYI, there are Cooke Panchros housed in there :)
 

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C mount?
 
Not a C mount. No threads and it is way bigger than that. Remember that is a Cooke Speed Panchro in there. Any other ideas?
 
I'm jumping out on a limb just a bit, but that looks like it might be an R35 mount. It's an old-style Mitchell mount that predates BNC and BNC-R, or at least I think it does. It was the mount used with the R35 camera. I would confirm that with a good lens tech though.
 
Arri Standard Mount (pre PL)?

How old is the lens. Is it a Speed Panchros?
 
It could be Arri Standard Mount. Hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like the lens mount itself would insert into the housing a bit. The mount though just doesn't look like an Arri standard mount to me. I'm trying to figure out what camera that mount might have been attached to...
 
I'm pretty sure the Cooke Speed Panchro inside that housing is an Arri standard mount. The camera lens mount pictured came off a home made crash cam.

Jeff I'm not familiar with an R35 mount, but you could be right. A friend of mine bought some other lenses from the same person that are in old BNC housings, so it makes sense that this housing is a really old format.
 
is that a Newman sinclaire mount?

A DP i came across named Joe Taylor shot some stuff with RED and Speed Panchros with an Odd mount.

check it:Here
 
Wow Timur, that was some nice footage and an interesting read. Thanks for the link. I can't tell if it is a Newman Sinclaire mount or not. Seems like the right era, but I still can't find anything that is exactly like this lens mount (at least on the internet). Anyone else know anything about these lens mounts?
 
Hello Timur! Hello Clint!

Just received your emails. Wow! Looking at those beautiful Cooke's bring back some fond memories of last year in Death Valley. I'm sitting here looking at a Arri 2A era Zeiss prime that has none of the signature details on your Cooke mounts, though.

Next to me is a picture from an old text book and they look like Bell & Howell mounts. I'm going to see if I can get the saint of vintage cameras, Sam Dodge to chime in.

By the way, I'm currently have a collar machined so I can screw a Palmer & Longking Daguerreotype Lens in a modified PL mount. Should be interesting!
 
Hello Timur! Hello Clint!

Just received your emails. Wow! Looking at those beautiful Cooke's bring back some fond memories of last year in Death Valley. I'm sitting here looking at a Arri 2A era Zeiss prime that has none of the signature details on your Cooke mounts, though.

Next to me is a picture from an old text book and they look like Bell & Howell mounts. I'm going to see if I can get the saint of vintage cameras, Sam Dodge to chime in.

By the way, I'm currently have a collar machined so I can screw a Palmer & Longking Daguerreotype Lens in a modified PL mount. Should be interesting!

Oh man, thanks Joe! Which Bell & Howell camera do you think it was? I don't know anything about those old cameras.

What's a Longking Daguerrotype Lens? Sounds interesting. I'm learning so much in my search for the name of this mount. Thanks for all your help fellas. I'm curious to see what Mr. Dodge has to say :)
 
Hello Clint

I'm almost positive your lens was mounted for the Bell & Howell 2709 series of cameras that were initially manufactured as handcranked cameras then retrofitted with electric motors. These were cameras made to make films like King Kong and other epics from that era. Daguerreotypes were the first form of photography developed in France in the early half of the 19th century. The lens I have was made in the 1840's all brass and glass. Here's a good link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype
 
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