My very first RedUser techie question

[alexwhitmer]

Here's the scoop ...

We will rent a Red package for the bulk of the filming (all?) of FINDING ME, but have a chance to bring in a second, non-Red camera to do those other angles and pick ups. Am I flirting with disaster here?

We just can't afford two Reds, unless funding magically brims over the cofferes (currently at zero!!, and not the same as the untitled Christmas story)



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[Brian Merlen]

What would your b camera be? Also is it capable of shooting the same frame rate/aspect ratio/glass/etc as your red? is the sensor size the same? all these make it tougher to cross cut it, but since the red is shooting raw (i assume) you can grade it to match....it is possible...but knowing how close you can match the settings is the determining factor....also consider other ways to maximize your red efficiency. hiring a good DIT, that can keep you rolling, etc...

 

[PatrickFaith]

Some of my friends rent red one mx's (good rate right now) and mix it with canon 5d/7d for car mounts, bikes, etc ... seems to go a good job at 1080p/2k as the final for the movie. When I do this (for shorts), i use the same lens (my cp2 50mm which i switch back between pl for red camera and ef for canon camera) ... i think using the same lens across both camera types helps integrate the images a bit easier.

 

[Yousuf Abbasi]

I've seen 7D's cut really bad with RED, other times i've seen 7D footage cut well. It really depends on how it was exposed, shot and graded, for one to determine if itll cut well or not.

Out of the box, no - it won't cut well. With a little bit of skill, you can make it work..

 

[Shane Kelly]

I'd agree that you should get a red one mx- pretty cheap right now and you can share lenses, v-mount batteries and cards ( if it has ssd module ). It may even be cheaper than say an F3 ( which would be my next choice - in s-log). The red one and the scarlet/epic will cut pretty seamlessly, I'd stay away from intercutting within scenes with any other camera. I shot this video both with epic and redone, there's no way to tell the difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UyyaFlE1I

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Isn't that what Scarlet was designed to do? You can easily get a scarlet for the same rate as a 5D or anything else you would rent.

 

[paulherrin]

i'd try two scarlet's or two mx's...

call me up if you want to use mine!

 

[alexwhitmer]

The other camera is Canon t3i or 7D. And we will be shooting in NY probably late fall - want to get the color before it all fades.

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[john jeffreys]

Isn't that what Scarlet was designed to do? You can easily get a scarlet for the same rate as a 5D or anything else you would rent.

Uh, no. In LA a typical Scarlet package rental is 425-450, and a 5d package rental is 125-175

 

[Brian Merlen]

Yea man in NYC they ain't the same either, no way does a 3,000 dollar 5D compete for a 15-20k Scarlet rate wise, not even in back country lol!! Mind you those rates are for like a ready to shoot package, no glass...and the bodies cost no wheres near the same

 

[Michael Millichamp]

I would definitely try to get a Scarlet or Epic as a B-Cam. You will save yourself in the end.

I have seen footage of RED and 5Ds, and 7Ds, cut together and you can definitely tell the difference.

Im sure you can find someone who is willing to whore their Scarlet out for 200 a day.

 

[alexwhitmer]

Yes, that's our big hope, but as this is a micro-mini budget, whoring will certaonly be the order of the day. Even for pizza.

We will be shooting late Fall in NY, and I so want to get the Fall color in there, and use the best posssible cameras to make it as intense as possible. Maybe for the untrained eye it would go unoticed, but I don't want to go there if at all possible.

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[Jason DeSimone]

The other camera is Canon t3i or 7D. And we will be shooting in NY probably late fall - want to get the color before it all fades.

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Alex, we are shooting a feature out in New Mexico until end of oct, but will be back in NYC for Nov. I would like to get some more info and perhaps donate our scarlet and any other resources we may be able to help out with on this.

Best

 

[alexwhitmer]

That would be excellent!

My next book will be about how to make a feature film for 10,000 or less. Subtitled Beg, Borrow and Steal.

We have our hog bike already, a great candidate for lead and first supporting, locations, etc. Coming together bits at a time. This is a deeply personal story, so I'm being a wipe when it comes to details and changing the script.

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