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My Prediction Scarlet for $4000

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Andy Corleone

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I'm seriourly think this will happen very soon if they are smart enough. Now we have the promisse of a Blackmagic 4K S35 sensor for $4000. I know I know!!! :) looking back the record of this company it won't happen any time soom my guess 8 months or so. But after this announcement there is no way any low budget filmmaker (like me) will invest anything more on a red scarlet at the current price point $7950 for a unfuntional block.

If they drop the price I won't be very upset becuase I bought my scarlet battle tested for $7100 with the side SSd module and a canon mount roughly a lost of $900 and I'm enjoyed every minute of it but If you asked me to go back in time I will probably make a different decision but I don't have that choice anymore.

What really concern me about RED is in past few months it is becoming in a reactionary company instead of a revolutionary one. Don't you guys think it wouldn't have been more visionary at they time they announse the price cut a few months ago to put the price of the scarlet closer to $4000 mark? I'm pretty sure they had gain lot more followers by now and probably slow down the intensions of Blackmagic for this new venture.

to make things worst now they have to deal with a lawsuit, this past few months not been very nice for red and their plans but I'm really hope they came victorious for all this adversity. and show us what they are made of. Interesting times we are living.
 
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Thats Crazy eh? I won't be upset if the drop the prices of the accessories as well... is surreal to think the EOS mount cost the same as a Fully functional Canon Rebel DSLR :(

Brett Harrison said:
when Scarlet is that low the accessories cost more than the brain.
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Andy Corleone said:
Thats Crazy eh? I won't be upset if the drop the prices of the accessories as well... is surreal to think the EOS mount cost the same as a Fully functional Canon Rebel DSLR :(
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yes and no, I mean the build quality as you know is really nice - that's one difference between prosumer and RED. I don't think the accessories are going to go down any time soon - especially considering the prices on the new ones. But who knows.
 
And what will be the price of the R1 there? 1K$? :) It can ruine the market
 
Yes very important for those on a budget and who are unlikley to payoff camera within a few years.
Sensors are cheap.
But fine tuning and cramming features into ASICs cost $$$, so you have to be carefull that the $$$ you pay are for features that will pay for themselves.

The bottom line is not to get drawn into sticking with a camera solely because you have already spent $XXX and it can be upgraded, especially consider the cost of the upgrade that will push back your break even point.

Above advice less relevant if you are busy and getting more than 1/2% rental rate per day.



Mike Brennan
 
I have just ordered a BM Pocket Camera. Gives me a massive step up in quality from a DSLR in a smaller than DSLR package. For a lot of stuff I do it will be fab and actually for me works way better as a Run n Gun camera than anything else out there. It's bordering on the 'Scarlet that never was'. What does all this mean...... it gives me a great image and unless the price of RED falls through the floor I will stick with what I have been doing when I need 4K which is renting. You then have no worries about the latest tech, sensor upgrades etc. Just rent the 'latest highest spec right tool' for the right job when you have the work confirmed and ready to pay for it.
Emmmm - starting to sound like that's just what we used to do when we shot 35mm...........
 
Just rent the 'latest highest spec right tool' for the right job when you have the work confirmed and ready to pay for it.
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Exactly, I rarely buy anything over 6000 USD because I rarely see the point of it. Any technology that comes out will be "in our pocket" in a number of years. The specs of the Epic dragon, not counting R3D RAW, will most likely be in our mobile phones 2020. If you don't believe me, save this post and dig it up during that year.

And if you REALLY look at how media is consumed today, Netflix and youtube talk about 4K, but what about the quality of those 4K images? They are heavily compressed footage. And TV still broadcast SD MPEG2!! Technology today is way ahead of what consumers use but we still pay extreme amounts of money for technology that will drop so much in price that we'll feel ripped off during purchase.
I mean, people in here say the Epic is cheap.... compared to what? How it was years ago yes, of course, but is it cheap? Really?
I know a guy who purchased the Epic around the time it came out, he's done a lot of work with it since then, rents it out, rent himself out with it etc. but he still haven't payed himself back for the economical setback that it was.
 
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