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Mounting Red Camera on Sachtler Tripod

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Hi there

We have just received our Red camera and plan to use this with a Sachtler Video 25 tripod. This tripod features the usual Sachtler quick release plate and I'm wondering what's the most efficient way of mounting the Red to this?

I'm thinking that the "best" method is to attach the Red bottom plate to the camera and then attach the Red Cheese Plate to the base of this and then screw the Sachtler base plate onto this and attach the quick release plate to the tripod.

Would the Element Technica base plates be compatible with the Sachtler Video 25? If so which one would be best? This looks to me to be a much more robust and easy to use method of mounting the camera.

Any Sachtler/Red users able to help out here?

Many thanks

Besy wishes

Scott
 
The ET plate is a better system, but you will need extra long screws because the ET plate has very recessed holes. I had to have screws my Ronford heads changed.
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Thanks Guys

I've just mounted the Red Cheese Plate to the Red Bottom Plate - providing I've done this correctly and I'm not being stupid, it looks like there are ONLY two screws with quite short threads holding the two plates together! Should I be nervous or am I just being paranoid? :)

Best wishes

Scott
 
Thanks Alexander

Seems rather odd to rely on only two short screws to attach such a valuable payload to the tripod, but hey I guess I worry too much :help:

Still keen to hear from anyone who has successfully attached a ET Arri Dovetail to a Sachtler tripod.

Best wishes

Scott
 
Don't worry about the screws not holding your camera sercurely. Much much larger cameras have been held with just one 3/8-16 screw for the last hundred years.
 
We have done both ways on the Sachtler Video 25. Baseplate/Cheeseplate combo and ET Baseplates 15mm and 19mm. Funny thing is that ET fits on ARRI Sliding Plates but not on Chrosziel plates. On the Chrosziel Plate the lock mechanism of the ET plate get stuck.

Hope that helps.
 
Hey Chuck

thanks for that, I'll sleep better tonight safe in the knowledge that my Red is safe.

movie-magic - having used both combinations, what's your advice here? Is it worth us spending the extra money to go for the ET Arri Dovetail + Red 19mm Bridge Plate?

I see you are based in Bangkok. I Spent Christmas in Thailand, travelled from Bangkok down to Samui and Pha Ngan - beautiful, can't wait to return, hopefully with our Red cam. :biggrin:

Best wishes

Scott
 
Scott

for us as a rental house we need to have more than one option because the heads always changes. If you are only using the Sachtler head the cheese plate version is fine because you can balance your camera conveniently on the head.
 
Scott,

I own both the Sachtler 25 Plus and the Sachtler Cine30HD head/tripod. I've used both tripods with the Red (as well as other cameras) with no problems. I love the Cine 30 since it's a O'Connor/Sachtler hybrid- definitely worth a look. (another topic all together)

I purchased the ET Arri 19mm baseplate and dovetail plate to go with the Cine 30 and it works fantastic- far more flexible then the Red cheese plate has to offer. Have not tried the ET plate on the Sachtler 25 Plus yet, but as long as you have a bridgeplate in the system, I'm sure you would be good to go- highly recommended. I don't see why you would need special screws- but I would use at least 2 at all times.

I do own the Red bottom cheeseplate since it's really the only way to go if you want to shoot of a tripod or dolly and don't want to go the ET route. It solves the wiggle problem, but creates another problem when you want to go handheld. Blows. You have to take off all 4 bolts of the baseplate, then remove the 2 short bolts that hold on the cheeseplate, then re-attach the baseplate, then you can slide on the Red handheld plate (which really is not comfortable anyway and has no hard lock to keep the sliding plate from coming off). Takes about 5 minutes every time which is a real pain- hardly an efficient use of time on set.

If you can go ET, then do it... Now if they would just release the handheld shoulder pad that slides into the 19mm Arri plate life would be oh so sweet...
 
HD Arizona

Thanks for that, I'll soldier on for the next week or two with the Red cheese plate but long term I do think the ET solution is better and this is the way we'll go.

I agree that the effort required to fit the shoulder dovetail is crazy, surely someone can come up with a comfortable shoulder pad that can be easily attached to the Red cheeseplate.

I'll look at knocking together a home made foam/gaffer tape combo that will get me started but we NEED a better solution here. Anyone?

Best wishes

Scott
 
I have a Sachtler Panorama 7+7 (which is very similar to a Video 18) and the screw holes on the wedge plate for 3/8" screws do not align with the spacings on the Element Technica 1030 plate to use two 3/8" screws. Does anyone make a wedge plate for Sachtler with alternate spacings?
 
John Terendy said:
I have a Sachtler Panorama 7+7 (which is very similar to a Video 18) and the screw holes on the wedge plate for 3/8" screws do not align with the spacings on the Element Technica 1030 plate to use two 3/8" screws. Does anyone make a wedge plate for Sachtler with alternate spacings?
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Same problem with my Sachtler Video 20II baseplate. Im having to have a bit of redrilling done on it and deeper screws. Not really that big a deal but would be handy if these were offered somewhere.

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The longer screws are available from Element Technica. Forgot to mention that. I'm having a machinist friend stop by tonight to see if it's feasible to make custom Sachtler plates with the proper spacing.
 
Is there any system that allows you to just remove the camera from the tripod and go handheld without having to mess around with screws and bolts?
 
My machinist friend is going to build me two Sachtler plates with the 1-inch
spacing to match the Element Technica 1030 Dovetail. I'll let everyone know how things shake down with it and maybe he can make a couple more if anyone needs one.
 
Yes, Sam Roberts there is - the ET way. When I use my ET Arri 19mm Baseplate with my Sachtler Cine30 Bridgeplate, the camera simply slides off and your good to go. No unbolting anything- ever. I'll just be happy when I can slide back on a shoulder pad when I go handheld. This would make it much faster and lots of flexibility to balance the weight in order to get it comfortable for handheld operation.

Only bolts needed in this setup are 2 - both hold the Arri baseplate to the camera. That's it. The tripod does not use a wedge plate- the bridgeplate does double duty so I'm not bolting a wedge plate to a bridgeplate then attaching it to camera. Awesome setup- and simple.

Alex
 
HD Arizona said:
Yes, Sam Roberts there is - the ET way. When I use my ET Arri 19mm Baseplate with my Sachtler Cine30 Bridgeplate, the camera simply slides off and your good to go. No unbolting anything- ever. I'll just be happy when I can slide back on a shoulder pad when I go handheld. This would make it much faster and lots of flexibility to balance the weight in order to get it comfortable for handheld operation.

Only bolts needed in this setup are 2 - both hold the Arri baseplate to the camera. That's it. The tripod does not use a wedge plate- the bridgeplate does double duty so I'm not bolting a wedge plate to a bridgeplate then attaching it to camera. Awesome setup- and simple.Alex
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Hi...pricey though. I'd love to see the detailed photos of this system. Can I take the RED base production pack off my list to save some money if I buy this ET system? Only then needing to buy the rods, battery/Red Drive cradle and some handles? I'm using a Sachtler tripod.
 
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