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More Monstro Thoughts & Dragon vs Monstro Test

I've had the Monstro for several months now and only have positive things to say about the color and the look from the sensor. I've used the Monstro on several professional and indie shoots and everytime I review the footage I am blown away with the results. I've had the opportunity to use the Monstro alongside Panavision's DXL2 for several projects. While on those jobs I had to match my B-Cam Monstro to the A-Cam DXL2. In order to create the match we used the LLO OLPF in combonation wtih the DXL - RWG / Log3g10 to 709 LUT. This is how I've been using my Monstro for the last 4-5 months and the results are stunning. I really haven't swayed too far from these setting. For interiors or low light scenes I rate the camera at 800 and for bright exteriors, 1600. I blackshade at 41 degrees. I couldn't be happier with the results or my decision to upgrade my CF Dragon to Monstro. It's definitely the best Camera RED has to offer.
 
From the little hands on time I had with the Monstro and having played with some footage shot on the camera let me say this... It is by far the best sensor Red has ever made. I will for sure upgrade to Monstro, it is only a question of when. For all those who claim that a 1/4 8K color capture equals a full 4K RGB capture, that is simply not true. 3 chip cameras do not have the dynamic range or the resolution that bayer pattern cameras have but they always have better color. It was mentioned before that the Monstro sensor has "more color" and "better color linearity"... I don't really understand what more color means and color linearity is a term I've never heard before, if someone can explain I'd be grateful.
 
kevinjoelson said:
I've had the Monstro for several months now and only have positive things to say about the color and the look from the sensor. I've used the Monstro on several professional and indie shoots and everytime I review the footage I am blown away with the results. I've had the opportunity to use the Monstro alongside Panavision's DXL2 for several projects. While on those jobs I had to match my B-Cam Monstro to the A-Cam DXL2. In order to create the match we used the LLO OLPF in combonation wtih the DXL - RWG / Log3g10 to 709 LUT. This is how I've been using my Monstro for the last 4-5 months and the results are stunning. I really haven't swayed too far from these setting. For interiors or low light scenes I rate the camera at 800 and for bright exteriors, 1600. I blackshade at 41 degrees. I couldn't be happier with the results or my decision to upgrade my CF Dragon to Monstro. It's definitely the best Camera RED has to offer.
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Yup +1
 
Graeme Nattress said:
(snip) There's a reason the Bayer CFA rules - it's the most efficient. Galt's article is terrible and recommended an "RGB (Trinitron?) Stripe" CFA, which certainly doesn't address spectral response issues (it being a dye based CFA) and it is the least efficient CFA pattern, and as we saw when we shot zone plates with it, produced rainbow banding just as I predicted.... Sony soon dropped this tech, then went with their 45 degree rotated bayer which also failed in the market place (being less efficient than a traditional bayer for a rectangular grid image production) and finally they did what they knew they should have been doing from the beginning - a traditional high resolution Bayer CFA.
Graeme
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As I noted in my post, I also don't agree with many of Galt's conclusions. That said, I cited it as a primer for laying out the basics of each tech. FWIW, I think that either topology can create terrific images - if you can effectively leverage the strengths of the chosen approach and minimize the penalties. I certainly agree with Graeme's assertion that Bayer CFA is king of the hill, especially now that he and others have toiled for years to refine the algorithms that are used to construct faithful RGB images in RAW development of the Bayer data set.

Cheers - #19
 
Thanks everyone for taking a look at the images and giving your thoughts. I should have more follow up in the future. As of right now, I'm busy as all hell shooting doc stuff with a couple of Sony's :-P

I want to get the Monstro on some more projects, but again it's either too new or the market here is behind in tech.
 
Good Luck on the Docs! and those Sony's "Venice"?
 
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