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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Money can't buy everything

Renting sounds like a great way to pay for the camera, but I am unsure how to go about it, and certainly not something I would not attempt to do on my own.

If you know any rentalhouses near you, approach them, chances are they do not have a reservation yet - and will be unable to get a camera untill sometime into 2008... in which case having them handle the rental of your camera can be a great deal for both of you - the beauty of this approach is they already have the clients, the downside is that you will need to share the money your camera makes.
 
Thanks, good idea. I am sure Phoenix must have some. Also I goes to LA every month or two, and I KNOW they have some ;)

Any Idea what the percentage split would be?
 
come on ... everybody has a PRICE !!

i only work on the projects i want/like to work on - however for 10k (US $) a day i'll work on something i don't like ...

RED 103 is not for sale ... BUT then again .. i'll take a good look at $ (US) offer in the 6+ figure area (for body only) ....
 
"Any Idea what the percentage split would be?"

a local rental house offered 50% ( RED body & EFV) ...

from my POV - 50% is too low at this time .. the rental house doesn't have a RED reserved ... they will make their $$ on all other accessories which will total higher then the body ...
if they don't have a RED =the lenses & accessories sit on their shelf ...renter goes to another rental house ...
 
Rent me, please

Rent me, please

I can't discuss specifics but I have been approached about renting #19 for a feature in August. Since they had originally budgeted for 35 I can ask for a premium rate and it still reads as big savings for them. The rental operation that is in the mix on this is not expecting anywhere near 50% and that's good since I would not consider that reasonable.

Having such a low number is leverage and I would love to pay off the camera in the first year. Like many of the folks on this forum I am open to renting with me included, no blind rentals. I figure that even if they have a DoP on board and/or Cam Op I can serve as a data wrangler / camera assistant / sorta DIT. I can even build my involvement into the rental price if they're concerned about the crew count.

Direct sale? It would have to be 6 figures but for that you could get an F23, oh that's right, they aren't available yet either - they even cancelled a training because the protos went back to Japan after NAB.
 
Since renting four Red One cameras for two days falls easily into the budget, it looks a lot like he is trying to get the state to buy him a camera?
 
Hi Clint

That was not my original intention, but when I saw the price for the outright purchase of the camera I thought, why not? I still need a camera for the whole 5-6 week shoot. Why would I rent a camera when I can own it for such a low price. I have 3 other projects in development, so owning a camera will make the budget for them much lower.
Where I am in the world there is very little work for someone unless you have access to a high quality camera and there are very few independant producers here.

I also happen to live in the only province that does not have a film industry.
There are no rental facilities near me, the closest is Cape Town that is 800km away.
The same place I am hoping to get the funding from recently gave a production
company from Johannesburg (1200km away)the same amount that I want just because they were shooting here.
They already had a lot of money as it was a television commissioned project.

All I said in the begining is that I missed the queue(my fault) and I was hoping that someone who had ordered more than one or could wait might be kind enough to help. the how and why I need the camera is not even relevant.
 
Hi Clint

That was not my original intention, but when I saw the price for the outright purchase of the camera I thought, why not? I still need a camera for the whole 5-6 week shoot. Why would I rent a camera when I can own it for such a low price. I have 3 other projects in development, so owning a camera will make the budget for them much lower.

Yeah, five or six weeks makes it more economically reasonable to purchase over renting- especially when any rentals would probably be from out of country sources.
 
Don't hate the person who reserved 5 cameras for resell. That person was a believer and saw an opportunity. Although I know they would keep at least one :)
 
Did I say anything else about selling? I was looking into perhaps renting out my red to help pay for it. Jim, did I do anything wrong? If so I apologize. I'm very grateful that the camera is being produced and I do want and need what it can provide. I was just being honest about theoretical situations, maybe too much so... I put down an early reservation, because I had faith that the red team could pull it off, and because it is a dream come true camera, and nothing has changed.

[Edit: I don't see the post that I just replied to anymore ]
 
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