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Minimum Tripod/Fluid head requirements

Vladimir Druts

Vladimir Druts

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Hey Folks,

I could really use some of your expertise. I'm a first time Red Buyer and currently thinking between Red One MX and Scarlet (both BT).

I'm having a really diffuclt time choosing, personally I much prefer the MX One Image as well as 4.5k dimensions and aspect ratio.

Also it seems the package can be had for cheaper, although I'm wondering how much I would need to spend on a Tripod and head to be able to run keep this baby stable.

On average how much does a rig way, with hard-drives, battery, LCD (EVF) etc..

And what is the minimum price wise, recommended Fluid head?

I was thinking Sachtler FSB8.. Up to 22lb It says I think :/
 
Vladimir Druts said:
And what is the minimum price wise, recommended Fluid head?
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Was just about to post a similar question, but figured I'd bump your post. I'm looking for something (brand new) around $2k for the Red One...anyone know of anything? I'm on an F3 right now & my typical setups only weigh around 10-12 lbs...think I'm looking at 20-25 lbs with the R1 MX.
 
Probably too low on your budget for anything new.. for that matter too low for good stuff used..

look at used miller and sachtler 20 or panorama.. or O'connor used..
 
Thanks Christopher. You older Red users are about to start seeing some hilarious shit out in the field.

I'm talking Red Ones handheld with no rails, the Red Brick duct-taped to a Pearstone articulating arm & Nikon 50mm 1.8 with q-tip jammed in to hold the aperture open.

I think in the end this price drop will benefit old & new Red users. Used R1 accessories on eBay are going for as high as 90% of retail.

The untalented folks who think a camera gives you talent will get weeded out quickly. This happened when 7Ds spoiled the lower end market.
 
Ryan Lightbourn said:
Thanks Christopher. You older Red users are about to start seeing some hilarious shit out in the field.

I'm talking Red Ones handheld with no rails, the Red Brick duct-taped to a Pearstone articulating arm & Nikon 50mm 1.8 with q-tip jammed in to hold the aperture open.

I think in the end this price drop will benefit old & new Red users. Used R1 accessories on eBay are going for as high as 90% of retail.

The untalented folks who think a camera gives you talent will get weeded out quickly. This happened when 7Ds spoiled the lower end market.
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That's so mean Bro...

We all know that is not the camera only. I think we'll see lot of great stuff in the right hands. Hands that couldn't afford such a high-end equip a few months ago. Let's not forget BMCC which is just amazing for the price tag. Footage coming from that thing is just unbelivable! Times are changing fast... really fast!

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I'm using an old Sachtler, It really gets the job done on my F3 kitted. Let's see with R1, but there're some good choices on ebay...
 
yeah.. for my f3 and rented R1s and prior to that my SOny f900 rig and prior to that misc Arri 35mm film rigs.. Sachtler Video 20 mk 2, and O'connor 50D and some other stuff.. the Sachtler held up fine on the packages of same weight as R1 MX... but is hard to find for less than $3500 used with aluminum legs in good condition..
the old manfrotto/bogen 166 head with massive sticks and a spreader could work as a lock off head for this.. god knows it would hold a betacam.. but it is not a smooth or adjustable drag head... I just have not ever seen a tough and smooth enough product for under $4-5K new for a tripod and head in the wieght capacity need for a pro camera package.
And everyone, please remember that handheld work is good when it has a purpose.... it doesnt fit all stories or situations.. and in drama, you are giving up some of your storytelling control.. specifically, you are giving up repeatable planned composition.. one of the "Cs" of Cinematography..

If the actors only get it right once, you don't want it to be on the take where you missed them..

Also, in general a good tripod and head helps you to be a better film maker... and pays itself back over and over again..
 
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