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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Mic on Weapon

If it's interviews, a wireless mic placed on the person being interviewed would be a better choice. A large part of getting good sound boils down to getting the microphone close to the person speaking; another big part of it is choosing a quiet place in which to shoot.

Putting a mic on a camera is never a good idea for any kind of serious audio, because 1) you're too far away from the people speaking, and 2) the mic will tend to pick up the camera noise. Shotgun mics are not the answer, because they don't actually record sound in a straight line -- they record the entire room but tend to ignore some sound behind the mic.

The best answer (to me) is just hire a guy to run sound and have them move the mic as close as possible to the interviewee. Affordable sound people are out there.
 
Hi guys - sorry to intrude but I've been going through the forums like crazy. I bought a small olympus condensor mic for my Epic X but cant seem to get it to work. I think I have tried every possible audio setting on the epic but still no signal is coming in. Have you ever managed to get small scratch mics to work? Thanks for any input


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/496651-REG/Olympus_145037_ME_51S_Stereo_Microphone.html

The audio inputs on the weapon are different than on the epic. Besides, that scratch mic will sound as good as what's built into the weapons. Also, the Rodemic Pro is a big step up than the internal mics too.
 
If it's interviews, a wireless mic placed on the person being interviewed would be a better choice. A large part of getting good sound boils down to getting the microphone close to the person speaking; another big part of it is choosing a quiet place in which to shoot.

Putting a mic on a camera is never a good idea for any kind of serious audio, because 1) you're too far away from the people speaking, and 2) the mic will tend to pick up the camera noise. Shotgun mics are not the answer, because they don't actually record sound in a straight line -- they record the entire room but tend to ignore some sound behind the mic.

The best answer (to me) is just hire a guy to run sound and have them move the mic as close as possible to the interviewee. Affordable sound people are out there.

Marc, are you getting paid for pro-moing hiring sound guys? It just seems like every post you make has this command/suggestion in it. '-) If you are getting paid... :thumbup1:

But why not put it in your signature and save having to put it in every sound post?
 
The audio inputs on the weapon are different than on the epic. Besides, that scratch mic will sound as good as what's built into the weapons. Also, the Rodemic Pro is a big step up than the internal mics too.
That's a good idea. What I do is just crank up the internal mics and with the 6k or 8k setup the camera so I don't have to worry about framing(i.e. with the 6k going to 1080p, frame it so it doesn't matter if the person moves around). Then I external record with a cmit 5u shotgun mic and earphones (really not paying attention to the camera at that point), then join it up in post (there's a bunch of new programs to basically join external audio with the scratch mics now). This way if the camera messes up in anyway I still have the audio (and put b-roll over the audio). Another thing I find is it's more important to pay attention to the audio and have the headphones on, then messing with the camera (if I don't have the headphones on and paying attention to that, the sound is almost always hopeless).
 
Marc, are you getting paid for pro-moing hiring sound guys? It just seems like every post you make has this command/suggestion in it.
No, not at all. 90% of what I do these days is just color, plus some post supervision. If people ask for opinions on an internet forum, they're going to get them. Most of the time, when people ask questions like this they tend to ignore the obvious answer, which is hire a professional. My opinion is that the camera operator and DP already have enough headaches to worry about. Saddling them with sound on top of everything else is far too much work and will yield inferior results.

I get that there are situations where you have to have minimal crew people -- even as few as one or two people, shooting a clandestine documentary or war footage -- where you have no room and no options for sound people or a lighting crew or anybody else. For that, sure... slap a 416 in a shockmount on the camera and do your best. But trying to avoid spending the money to do it right when you have a bigger crew and more options is foolish and ultimately destructive, because bad sound winds up making any project look cheap and unprofessional.

And if you can afford $35,000+ for a Red Weapon, sound is chickenfeed next to that. $5K would buy a serviceable sound package, plus a few hundred bucks a day for somebody to operate it.
 
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