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Hi guys

What is your preferable mattebox brand and size for your RED One.

I personally dont find why we need 6x6 MB while the lenses that being used is enough when you used 5.65 x 5.65 mattebox (or 4x5.65),beside it's heavy. I am thinking to get a second MB and good one and seeking input from professionals here.

What mattebox did you use most of the time. And if you used 6x6, how often did you use it ?

Thanks
Rivai
 
Arri 6x6 and smaller Chrosziel on my Red. I think Arri is the better of the two.

Buy a Matte Box large enough to cover the field of view of the lenses you will use most often. If you occasionally rent a lens that requires a larger Matte Box, just rent it along with the lens.

Good Shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
No question that for now the best solution is Arri MB20 II.

You want ot own the standard 4x5.65 and rent the 6x6 when needed, as suggested by Leo, unless you frequently use lenses whihc required its use more often then not, then you would by both, but the standard 4x5.65 is a must, and the Arri MB20 II is the best out there, but there are other options that you must consider, and hopefully soon RED's MB version will nbe out too, which will represent yeat an other incredible offering from them.
 
I forgot to mention that a Matte Box that is just large enough for your lenses in the horizontal position may not be large enough when you must rotate a Polarizer!

Good shooting and best regards,

Leo
 
I use Arri 5x6 matte boxes and in addition to a 5x6 pola I also have a 138 for some of my larger front element and wider angle lenses for obstruction free rotation. The 5x6 was a little less weight than the 6x6 however I would sometimes welcome the larger size.
 
I agree with Ketch, ARRI MB20 II, Perfect for RED!
 
thanks for the feedback guys

It seems the primary filter size for MB20 II is 4x5.65, so i still can use the existing filter. I have a round gear driven polarizer, so i never rotate the filter stage at all.

Will the red prime pro fit ARRi MB20 II ?

Cheers
Rivai
 
The MB 20 fits well with the RPP´s as well as with MasterPrimes , S4´s and a lot of other lenses. The Limit of the MB 20 is 14mm wide angle, which won´t work any more as well as lenses with a front diameter larger than 144mm, so for Optimo 24-290 or Cooke 18-100 you have to go for a 6x6 mattebox.
As a clipon i love my LMB-15

Manuel
 
Thanks for the feedback :)
 
MB-20 (and 20 II) is probably the best all-around choice. The Vocas MB450 seems to be popular as well and one that is recommended by AbelCine along with the Arri matteboxes. I personally have not used one.

The ARRI MMB-1 is also a great choice for those looking to use something more compact. It fits all the RPPs and actually is good with the Tokina 11-16 zoom at about 13mm and longer. I would choose the MMB-1 for anyone running SLR glass or primes that have 80mm fronts. You can get the 114mm bellows and a 110mm step ring to fit the RPP's, but then it's down to filter coverage. 4x5.65 can be an issue on wider lenses if you need to rotate any filters such as grads or polarizers. You have to consider your lenses. For many of the RPP's (and S4's and master primes), you're best with a 5.65x5.65 filter system or 138mm round if you need to rotate.
 
Fwiw, I got such an excellent deal on an Arri MB-18, that I bought it, and have been very happy with it ever since. 4x5 frames, and it even covers my 11-16mm zoom with a bit of finesse.
 
Depends on your lenses.

We have standard 80mm front primes. 3x3 filters cover fine, no vignetting whatsoever, so we use cheap 3x3 filters with the cheap clip-on Arri LMB-2 mattebox. Works for everything (including rotating polas, grads etc)

I'm sure this will raise some eyebrows (many people like to show off their package by getting the latest/priciest bells and whistle) but there's no need for that.

Figure out what you need and don't spend more.
 
Chrosziels mattebox MB 456 Academy Double...

Chrosziels mattebox MB 456 Academy Double...

which is most probably the most cost-efficient 2 stage Mattebox for cameras with 16x22mm chip or film format like the RED one. Carbon-Design, lightweight and impact resistant.
Lightweight and ultra compact, ideal for handheld shooting. But also no
compromise due to the Double-Rotating-Filterstage, equipped with 2 equally sized multiformat filter holders (510-01) 5x5” / 4x5.65”.
True 12mm (!) MatteBox - By using 5x5 filters, two rotate unrestrictedly and the first one can be rotated by 40°. The front stages (first and the second one respectively)are automatically held in place when the next further back is rotated.

Pls check with www.16x9inc.com, contact James Lee or Michael Ibanez

best rdgs
Sebastian
 

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Medavoym said:
Depends on your lenses.

We have standard 80mm front primes. 3x3 filters cover fine, no vignetting whatsoever, so we use cheap 3x3 filters with the cheap clip-on Arri LMB-2 mattebox. Works for everything (including rotating polas, grads etc)

I'm sure this will raise some eyebrows (many people like to show off their package by getting the latest/priciest bells and whistle) but there's no need for that.

Figure out what you need and don't spend more.
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I agree. It depends on your lenses, and also if you plan on renting it out to other productions. If you want to be a "rental house" then you'll need all of the standard equipment one would expect to rent the camera with.

However, for myself, I have small primes (Cooke S2/S3's) and the Arri MB-17b works great for me. (4x4 matte box). Get what you need, and what can pay for itself. Having the latest and greatest is not a smart move if it is just sitting on the shelf ...
 
Jeff Kilgroe said:
MB-20 (and 20 II) is probably the best all-around choice. The Vocas MB450 seems to be popular as well and one that is recommended by AbelCine along with the Arri matteboxes. I personally have not used one.
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I have a Vocas MB 450 and can find no flaws with it. I am really happy, tons of features, holds up to 5 filters (if you ever need that many in a R1) and has these cool little internal eyebrows as well as the usual F-flag, and it is build really well. I recommend people take a look, it cost less than a similar Arri too.

OK i noticed I already posted on this thread some time ago. No more Vocas plugs from me.
 
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