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MATTEBOX: What's your preference?

Will Keir said:
Thanks Trevor. It looks like you are skipping the use of a doughnut / bellows. How are you preventing light entering in the back?
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Clamp-on. Very light tight, and the VIV is so light it won't hurt the lens or the mount.
 
Will Keir said:
Strummer = Swing away version but no clamp on?
VIV = Non Swing? With Clamp on?
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Correct, but the VIV can also be rod-mountable, just no swing-away option on Gen 1. There is a swing-away option coming in a future release.

VIV

STRUMMER
 
is it me or the angle, but the MB looks like it bends downward.
 
Will Keir said:
is it me or the angle, but the MB looks like it bends downward.
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Will,

the bent: Could've been the angle of the camera shooting... could've been that I didn't have it on straight... I'll admit... I had 90 minutes to set up, light, shoot, copy the media, edit, and tear down the gear for this shoot. I did it in a hurry. I'd like to re-shoot and add a ton of info that I've learned since... I had a job in the afternoon, and I wanted to help folks out before CineGear, so this went very quickly...

I think VIV's video, and the other two I've shot, but not finished cutting for Blacklight and Misfit are MUCH better than this initial effort... I had NO IDEA it would garner this much attention...
 
Will Keir said:
I think I figured it out. I've been using the bellows on the O-Box and it puts me back quite a bit from the 4x5.65 filter trays.

In the video Matt linked, Curt goes over this same issue with the BT VIV at 24mm.

So do I really need to use a bellows to keep light out? How do I get closer to the filters without letting light in the back end, or with filters in, prevent light from penetrating into the back end, bouncing off the filter, then into the lens, killing my shot?
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Let me jump in here for a second... NO! You do NOT need the rubber bellows to keep light out. VIV has these terrific "rings" that will do that for you. Trevor didn't get the rubber bellows... he's never reported any issues to me.

I can tell you from my own testing, and I am putting up an AMENDED version of the VIV review... I've gone as wide as an Ultra Prime 16mm with NO VIGNETTING on VIV, in full 5K! This is with the rings, and NOT the rubber bellows.

The rubber bellows, like shown in my review, force the mattebox forward a bit, about 3/8" - 1/2" and therefore "creates" the vignetting.... The same holds true on Strummer... pull the Rubber Bellows, slide the MB back, and the problem is solved... I usually use a neoprene donut to block light at that point. I've been asked "how wide can I go?" I honestly don't know... the widest lens I have is the Ultra 16mm... I'm trying to get my hands on the Tokina 11-16... I'll let you know then!
 
Matt Ryan said:
Check out the Bright Tangerine VIV matte box. I have the Strummer (swing away model) and love it.
http://brighttangerine.com
The VIV is the equivalent to the oBox. Vlad Eugene who 2 years ago sold me on the oBox, sold his and bought the VIV. I then bought the Strummer and am more than happy with it.
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Matt,

Vlad bought a VIV? Must have gotten it from "the other guys!" (Damn.... did me like that! Love Vlad! His Leica's are sick!)
 
Curt,

I'm a fan of your style, direct, to the point and exciting. I'm in. When are the other videos coming? BTW, check your e mail.

Curt Pair said:
Will,

the bent: Could've been the angle of the camera shooting... could've been that I didn't have it on straight... I'll admit... I had 90 minutes to set up, light, shoot, copy the media, edit, and tear down the gear for this shoot. I did it in a hurry. I'd like to re-shoot and add a ton of info that I've learned since... I had a job in the afternoon, and I wanted to help folks out before CineGear, so this went very quickly...

I think VIV's video, and the other two I've shot, but not finished cutting for Blacklight and Misfit are MUCH better than this initial effort... I had NO IDEA it would garner this much attention...
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Curt Pair said:
The rubber bellows, like shown in my review, force the mattebox forward a bit, about 3/8" - 1/2" and therefore "creates" the vignetting....
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Why would you ever use a rubber bellows?

Is there a 138mm Polarizer option with BT or you use one of three filter trays?
 
Curt Pair said:
Matt,

Vlad bought a VIV? Must have gotten it from "the other guys!" (Damn.... did me like that! Love Vlad! His Leica's are sick!)
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Yeah he purchased one at NAB!
 
Will Keir said:
Why would you ever use a rubber bellows?

Is there a 138mm Polarizer option with BT or you use one of three filter trays?
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the rubber bellows houses a 138mm round filter. Not sure if Curt's review covered it but it does.
 
Will Keir said:
Matt, have you used the O-Box? Wondering what your thoughts are on the unit vs the BT gear.
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I used Vlad's Obox a year or so ago but he now owns a Viv. It's a solid matte box but I prefer the added features of the Bright Tangerine line (but those come at a much higher cost). The flexibility to add or remove stages, hardware on the flags to reduce weight when not needed, the wide focal view, clip on or 15/19mm option, the build quality, and the soon to come swing away option for the Viv so it will be an even more versatile matte box. Not to mention the handy 2nd and 3rd stages able to rotate 360 degrees. Not even to mention the companies customer service! I recommend BT to everyone who asks me cause they are a company I truly believe in.
 
His review doesn't... yet :)

That's what I was thinking, thanks Matt.

You have a strummer or VIV? Not sure if you have both or doing a switch.

Matt Ryan said:
the rubber bellows houses a 138mm round filter. Not sure if Curt's review covered it but it does.
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You pretty much sold me on it to tell you the truth Matt and several others from the looks of it.

How much is a VIV? I'd like to get an idea of the value without the middleman markup. The swing away option on a VIV is the way to go. Who did you buy yours from, customer services of BT is excellent?

Matt Ryan said:
I used Vlad's Obox a year or so ago but he now owns a Viv. It's a solid matte box but I prefer the added features of the Bright Tangerine line. The flexibility to add or remove stages, hardware on the flags to reduce weight when not needed, the wide focal view, clip on or 15/19mm option, the build quality, and the soon to come swing away option for the Viv so it will be an even more versatile matte box. Not to mention the handy 2nd and 3rd stages able to rotate 360 degrees. Not even to mention the companies customer service! I recommend BT to everyone who asks me cause they are a company I truly believe in.
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Will Keir said:
His review doesn't... yet :)

That's what I was thinking, thanks Matt.

You have a strummer or VIV? Not sure if you have both or doing a switch.
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I have a Strummer and getting the Viv in the mail today. I plan on keeping both lol. I am about to shoot a documentary so I needed a light matte box and didn't need swing away so I got a Viv.
 
Will Keir said:
You pretty much sold me on it to tell you the truth Matt and several others from the looks of it.

How much is a VIV? I'd like to get an idea of the value without the middleman markup. The swing away option on a VIV is the way to go. Who did you buy yours from, customer services of BT is excellent?
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Prices vary depending on the kit you get and the accessories you need.
Typically the Viv kit is around $1,800-$3,200...
 
Eric J. Johnston said:
My Internet is on after four days....hold this spot for me thx.
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I saw you deleted your post but just to be clear I never said anything negative about the Obox...As a matter of fact I almost bought one until I got my hands on the Bright Tangerine. I even checked through every post here to see if I said something negative, but I never did...
 
(Referring to Ketch's Strummer!) That's my man, right there! I told you! I'm SO HAPPY you like it. I love mine.

I started this whole thing as a USER, a CUSTOMER! I just dug them that much I had to tell others... we're gaining in numbers every week.... it won't be too long before we, the Bright Tangerine users are the industry standard! Mark my words!

BTW: I also use VIV regularly, just like Matt... when I do ENG type work... my Misfit has replaced my Chrosziel. (It's been a loyal soldier for 14 years! Still works great... the Misfit is just CRAZY light!)

Another BTW: I'm not sure Bright Tangerine is selling directly any longer... they've established a dealer and distributor network now... but the prices are also consistent now too!
 
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Ned Wilson said:
Any first hand reports on Mov Cam clip on?
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I own the MovCam three stage. Nice for the money, but vignettes on me up to about 32 mm... (in 5K with all three stages) which is why I went hunting for a new one... For the money, they are NICE! I think if you are 4K or below, they might just serve your needs at an incredible price!
 
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AndreasOberg said:
The bright tangerine looks fantastic. Nr 1 on my list currently. Ketch what accesories have you ordered for it. I have some trouble figuring out what package I should actually buy for it. Also hard to find places to purchase it in Eurpe.
Best
/Andreas
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Reach out to me and I'll help you out or find help for you man! BT is BASED in Europe! We'll getcha somethin!
 
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