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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Made in the USA...

Made in the USA

Made in the USA

I would love to see Epic %100 made in the USA.
 
Politics, chest-thumping and flag waving aside, what Jim has done with his company—manufacturing his products here—is deeply significant. The nation and its fundamental meaning has been built largely around the work of American hands—on farms, in the railroad, in factories and in the crucible of imagination that defines what a truly effective business is. And of course, American hands means immigrant hands, people from all over the world who came here seeking something better, generation after generation.

I already have two of his cameras and I’m in for a stage 3 Epic, and I guess I would be no matter where they were built, but this decision means a lot to me, particularly in these difficult times. Thank you, Jim for doing this.
 
This is a beautifully expressed sentiment Elsie, I agree wholeheartedly.
I think it is a great thing that Jim has demonstrated the leadership to bring the high tech, high value manufacturing that RED does back to the US. As the world economy continues along a path to a grand realignment of relative power, is is important that the USA retains it's high standard of living. An economically strong and balanced United States, that is producing interesting well paying jobs is in all our interests. Happy Americans is a good thing : )
 
Elsie N said:
I bought the Red One not knowing where it was made. And I would still be buying the Epic if it were made in some other place. But because I live at certain co-ordinates on a map that are within the boundaries of a county within a state that are also within the boundaries of a country... the United States, I feel a common bond with the people encased with me in these boundaries within boundaries. Thus, I am glad that my fellow occupants are reaping the financial benefits that Made In The USA imparts to the rest of us.

Yet on this forum, I also feel a common bond with Redusers forged by all things Red... Epic M, Epic X, Scarlet, Red Ray, and any other product branded with the Red Dot. Sure, sometimes we get a little snippy with one another, but when criticized or attacked unjustly, we pretty much have each other's back. And when reading one another's posts, I personally find that it is someone from a different country than the one I'm from that says something that corresponds to my viewpoint.

What I'm saying is, while I'm glad RED does its manufacturing in California, America, I'm happier still that RED gets their ideas and feedback from Redusers, Earth.
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I agree as well. Fabulous products are made worldwide, and regardless of where the products are made, we can assume they are made with the highest quality control because RED takes pride in their work, accessories, etc. I do feel that it is valuable and honorable for a US company to make products in the US if they can do so with good value and great outcome. If a company specifically outsources for lower cost labor and lower cost products, it is a disservice to the customer regardless of which country or region it is done. RED is a US company, therefore it is great they are offering US manufacturing, and unless there are technological flaws in doing so, and outsourcing would benefit by quality and not lower price, I am excited to see RED produce in the US. I just happen to be located in the US, but I would guess that Canadians would be excited to see their companies create Canadian jobs, other regions excited to see their homeland companies keep it at home, etc, etc.

The benefit the globe has, is it can purchase these products for use, but it brings great benefit to a nation if companies follow this guideline and help create jobs at home.
 
Jannard said:
The future of our economy depends on Americans being productive. That means actually making things...
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Finally, someone said it.

What RED is doing is the key for economic recovery. The jobs that they are creating don't just re-distribute new wealth, but actually creates it. This is the key to growth and recovery. Now if more leaders of industry and government would realize this...

Bruce Johnson
 
Bruce Johnson said:
Finally, someone said it.

What RED is doing is the key for economic recovery. The jobs that they are creating don't just re-distribute new wealth, but actually creates it. This is the key to growth and recovery. Now if more leaders of industry and government would realize this...

Bruce Johnson
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I totally agree, (with this also).

Sometimes I stand there and think “America what the f*ck are you doing…” usually directed to various (virtual) financial “instruments”, such as the whole subprime mortgage lending world fiasco that even ruined the finances of entire nations such as Iceland. These are “ideas” not things… that anybody actually made (I know that is very simplistic thinking).

So you have to think, well how the hell do you compete on the global stage when overseas (almost like Santa’s workshop) they can make just about everything at a ridiculous fraction of what it would cost in the US. That is very tough competition. So then you have to think well what the hell can WE do that no one else can? (In America).

That’s why I’m a RED fan because they CAN.

Also I’m a huge fan of Space-X that can put together commercial launch vehicles that are much cheaper and more competent than the Chinese and the Russian systems, and also do this practically in Los Angeles. I think there are still application areas and whole businesses that need to be developed and sought out in that mind set;… combination of good design, imagination, usefully innovative and HIGH QUALITY, . SpaceX partially founded by (south African born Entrepreneur, [Elon Musk] that started that little PayPal (thingy) and Tesla motor cars.) This is an excellent example of the US competing well on the world stage, doing what it does best or can do best.

While the Chinese have a population of 1 billion plus, we will NEVER (again be able) to “out-widget” the far east. Unless the US becomes a 3rd world country, so to attempt to do so is almost a lost cause (I’m sure some will disagree)…

I have to say I am very excited about developments in India as well as Africa; the Chinese are not missing any opportunities there either.

Cheers,

Eric
 
Elsie N said:
I bought the Red One not knowing where it was made. And I would still be buying the Epic if it were made in some other place. But because I live at certain co-ordinates on a map that are within the boundaries of a county within a state that are also within the boundaries of a country... the United States, I feel a common bond with the people encased with me in these boundaries within boundaries. Thus, I am glad that my fellow occupants are reaping the financial benefits that Made In The USA imparts to the rest of us.

Yet on this forum, I also feel a common bond with Redusers forged by all things Red... Epic M, Epic X, Scarlet, Red Ray, and any other product branded with the Red Dot. Sure, sometimes we get a little snippy with one another, but when criticized or attacked unjustly, we pretty much have each other's back. And when reading one another's posts, I personally find that it is someone from a different country than the one I'm from that says something that corresponds to my viewpoint.

What I'm saying is, while I'm glad RED does its manufacturing in California, America, I'm happier still that RED gets their ideas and feedback from Redusers, Earth.
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Elsie - of all the good thoughts on this topic from a lot of people, yours really resonates with me. I simply like the fact that a great product is being built in a great place by great people with a great vision. :thumbup1:
 
I'm not from the USA, I'm German. Still I don't like to see the USA suffering from a bad economy like that. I always found the Americans to be earnest, hardworking people. So I find Jim's decision a new form of patriotism that I would like to inspire others around the world.

P.S.: I hope to do my part in helping the US economy by buying a Scarlet one day :)
 
Jim,

Thank you. I just returned from the desert in July from being deployed with the California National Guard. I saved money over there to purchase my next video camera, and well it is going to be a Scarlet come hell or high water. Knowing that it is made in the USA has kept me patient. Also thank you for the SI line of Oakley items. It is appreciated.

-Christian Jadot
 
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Sabyasachi Patra said:
Am just concerned that RED could have ensured more value to the American economy by not restricting its manufacturing to CA/USA.
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RED cameras are already and excellent value. Personally, I have no issue paying more for a product that is manufactured in my country of origin and residence.
 
Jannard said:
Many companies say that their products "are designed in the USA." That is a hand job. Designing in the USA does create a few jobs, but that isn't enough. Most then send the designs to China for manufacturing.

Truly "Made in the USA" is what matters. That used to mean something. It does again today. At least we think so...

We are anxious and excited to create jobs here. We think we can compete by designing, engineering and manufacturing in the USA. That means performance and pricing.

90+% of EPIC is USA made. Even the boards are made in Silicone Valley. All assembly is being done at our factory in Irvine, CA. While we have nothing against China, almost nothing about EPIC has any parts made there. Only a handful of parts are made in Japan.

The future of our economy depends on Americans being productive. That means actually making things...

The very 1st EPIC-M (which went to Spiderman) took 8 people 12 hours to assemble. The 1st run had a 10% rate for "no re-work". That means that 90% had some sort of necessary re-work before it could be sent out.

Today... an EPIC-X gets assembled by an 8 person team in 13 minutes with a 96% "no re-work" percentage. And we are just getting started.

These are exciting times in a number of ways. The single best camera in the cinema industry was conceived of, designed, engineered, developed, and manufactured in the USA. Not Japan. Not Germany. Who would have thunk it?

Jim
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Jim, this is one of the best posts I've ever seen on Reduser. I am proud to own a camera that is made in the US. And I'm prouder still that is the show-stopping brilliantly-designed, tour de force of a camera that it is. Thank you for believing that you could make something here.
 
RED is to digital cinema what Sea-biscuit is to horse racing.

California and the entrepreneur go together.


To me what is great about the concept of RED is that in a sea of nameless and faceless companies they stood for an idea and had the balls to take it on. For those of you that think all it took was money i'd have to disagree. A thing like RED is a great American idea in that it is conceived and executed with a need to fulfill even if its not being asked for.

It's almost like you have to have that American swagger to pull it off.

Some find it fun to pick on Americans or have a laugh at their expense, but Americans live their patriotism. They are passionate about their country and it's young enough to really feel connected to it's short history.

The idea of America is really wonderful and even though she's been bashed around a bit, I'd never count Americans out because they know how to be proud and united behind a good idea...like RED.


David
 
Sergio Perez said:
I think that is the wrong reason to do it. I don't see a problem with cheap alternatives and ripoffs. They will never truly affect your business, as long as you keep
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Actually in my world of lighting it has become a very big problem. Say I advance a show to a venue specing a certain lighting fixture. The promoter at that venue decides to give me a knock off of the fixture that I wanted instead of the name brand one so he can pocket a few more bucks. I arrive and start loading in only to discover that the fixtures are not what I have programmed my show for nor are they one of my acceptable replacements. To add to the problem, I don't have the personality file for the fixture so I have no idea what the channel count is or what channel controls what. So now I have to hit up the console maker to rush me a new profile for a fixture that is a clear ripoff. Not only is this happening with fixtures but also with the consoles. In fact it has gotten so bad that some console makers are now refusing to make profiles for ripped off fixtures. In the lighting community that I belong to we have all banded together to refuse to do a show with a fixture that has been copied and brings no innovation to the market. When someone simply steals someone else's R&D to make a quick buck for doing nothing but copying it I have a real problem with that.

Sorry if that seems harsh but I have very strong beliefs in this.
 
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Denizhan Nacar said:
This country is for dreamers and inventors who can make it happen ,Kristin your words appear on my screen here in California by INTERNET( formerly Arpanet).
There is nothing political about it ....These are the Facts...
The first ARPANET link was established between the University of California, Los Angeles and the Stanford Research Institute on 22:30 hours on October 29, 1969.
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Reduser is on the world wide web - invented by a Brit.

Pride in one's country is admirable, but as Samuel Johnson famously said, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".
 
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