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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

LOOM

One of the best things about projecting at this brightness is we can essentially just color in 2D, then 'push' the grade to the 3D version. Which is essentially what we did with LOOM.

If you are planning a release with modern, 4ftL, then you have to do a '3D trim' which is just completely comprising the entire look for dark viewing conditions. Hopefully with Laser technology we'll actually be at a point where the 2D and 3D versions look the same because they actually WILL be the same.
 
Stivan Widick said:
I watched LOOM this morning and was blown away. It is a stunning movie; gorgeous to watch, beautifully acted--it pulled me right in and never let go. I saw it in the same theater pack as actor Giovanni Ribisi who told me this was the first time he'd seen it as well, and he was just as impressed. He said they shot it in only 5 days!
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Oh man, this is not going to be one of those things where, if I look at it, it's going turn out like what I was planning to do. ;)
 
LOVE IT!!

Even so the DP's decision over lighting were not my favorite choice for the story nor the format, the 3D was really god, not offensive to the eyes, even so at times I would have sure used greater Depth.

The clarity at 2k was great, using Passive Polarized glasses was a good experience, and of course the fact that OAKLAY shades, extremely comfortable, well, that was a plus!!

Thanks for the great experience, even so Jim was clearly not as happy about the fact of not letting us enjoy it at full 4K glory per EYE... ;)
 
The guys working the theatre like James Lucarelli were super nice. He let me sneak into theatre so I could see the film after Graeme tweaked the colour after the first showing. I thought the screening the first time looked good but after the second screening, it really rocked my socks. I also also got to experience it the second time with 3D glasses that actually fit over my glasses. FYI, the theatre was using styling expensive Oakley glasses.... awesome.... For me, this projector was a game changer.
 
3d glassews

3d glassews

everything about the loom presentation was incredible

but clearly no-one thought about the oakley glasses

oh so chic and trendy. But try wearing them over normal glasses

monumental fail

Surprised Red dropped the ball so badly on this.

jon
 
jon honeyball said:
everything about the loom presentation was incredible

but clearly no-one thought about the oakley glasses

oh so chic and trendy. But try wearing them over normal glasses

monumental fail

Surprised Red dropped the ball so badly on this.

jon
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I have purchased every single 3D glasses ever made as to test each, and found that the OAKLEYS to be the absolute BEST Passive Polarized 3D glasses ever!!


So comfortable and great.


None of al the 3D glasses I have ware comfortably over my Vision glasses, so at the end I made special vision glasses to ware under the 3D glasses, so small and thin framed, the only option.
 
jon honeyball said:
it was the curved wrap-around frame shape that was the problem
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they were not designed to go over glasses.. just like normal Oakley sunglasses are not designed to go over glasses... not sure how that would be classified as a monumental fail... we had Real-D old school flat glasses for anyone that wanted them.
 
Jarred Land said:
they were not designed to go over glasses.. just like normal Oakley sunglasses are not designed to go over glasses... not sure how that would be classified as a monumental fail... we had Real-D old school flat glasses for anyone that wanted them.
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Since they were in a pouch, I didn't know that they wouldn't fit over my glasses until the screening began, and the people handing them out didn't think to ask those wearing eyeglasses whether they wanted an alternative, nor was an announcement made that alternatives were available. I had to hold the Oakley glasses to my face with one hand throughout the screening a few inches away from my face, making the 3D effect a bit hit or miss as my hand wavered.

Otherwise, I thought the movie itself looked great.
 
If you were wearing glasses when you walked insomeone should of asked...if they didn't, then that sucks. That counts as a fail.
 
Didn't get out to NAB to see this, but I very badly want to... When is an online version going to be posted?!
 
I got these new sun glasses that fit over my normal glasses ... brand name is "fitovers" - and they work great . I really need to get something like that for 3d movies, since the free funky plastic glasses you get in the theater never fit correctly. I'd think a lot of people with glasses have problems in the movie theater(some of the theaters have running lights on - all the time, even during the showing, that give off glare on my glasses too).
 
KETCH ROSSi said:
Unfortunately no, but if 2k looked like it did, I can't wait to see what 4k will look like... ;)
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+1

Aside from the ghosting issues due to polarity/ glasses matching and some possible anomalies that could be attributed to the 8bit color space, I thought it looked pretty darn good. As Jim put it when he introduced it in the theatre on monday morning, the projector was "moving from alpha to beta... today..". I thought color rendition looked really good. Reds, greens and blues showed they could be nicely saturated and vibrant. For a laser device, there was no speckling and the blacks were wonderfully clean. The simultaneous right/left eye 3D is refreshing and even amazing in a projection device aimed at this price point. And it will be 4K simultaneous per eye, too!

I saw a few other little things that I could question, but I won't. It's still in development and I can't wait to see the projector when it's ready to ship and will form a real opinion then. For a system that just entered the beta testing stage, it's very encouraging and exciting. One thing I do question though is RED showing the projector to the masses in this state. While many of us here understand the situation, so many others may not and I hope that Red did not do themselves a disservice by showing early. OTOH, Canon did the same thing with their 4K reference monitors. All of those prototype displays showed issues and were noticeably inconsistent from one unit to the next.

LOOM was great. I hope it can be released.
 
Its ok, Jarred. A minor wrinkle to learn from. It just struck me as... amusing... that red didnt appear to have glasses-compatible oakley 3d glasses, for obvious historical reasons :)
 
BTW, what I forgot to mention about LOOM, was the fact of the appearance of the Atom 3D rig with the EPIC cameras... ;)

What we really sow was of course not the entire rig and cameras as they were rapped in plastic as Giovanni Ribisi moves the entire rig grabbing it by the MB, but the RED PRO LCD was too evident to miss... ;)

Nice touch... ;)
 
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