Looking for the right set of primes

[Mike Quill]

When using on a 5d3, the LA7200 has soft edges, no matter what aperture. Would be a lot less present when shooting on Dragon 6k.

Looks good
It is pretty soft on the sides... Is that a lens-thing or a La7200-thing?

 

[jordan levy]

Looks good
It is pretty soft on the sides... Is that a lens-thing or a La7200-thing?

yeah, that adapter is not an anamorphic adapter, its a 4:3 to 16:9 adapter and was made for standard definition cameras. it's tough to make it work and look good, need deep stops, so exteriors work ok but interiors you are pretty much f'd.

 

[Mathias Erichsen]

Totally agree with Nick about going the Russian lens route. I just put together a set consisting of:

MIR-47M 20mm f/2.5
MIR-1B 37mm f/2.8
HELIOS-44 58mm f/2.0
Jupiter-9 85mm f/2.0
Tair-11a 135mm f/2.8

I cinemodded them myself with Cordvision gears, step up rings and front caps. Fantastic company and cheaper than Duclos.

Just wanted to thank you for mentioning this set. Tested 20mm, 58mm and 85mm today and really love them! They are supertiny and I think they produce a smooth, organic and over all great looking image - a bit similar to Lomo´s I think.. Looking forward to get the others!

 

[Mike Quill]

Post some photos of your new glass! You made the right move by getting the f2.5 20mm! Only downside is it focuses the wrong way. Can you tell me how that step down ring is attached to the lens? Was it glued?

You NEED to get the mir 37mm. Such a sharp little lens with great bokeh.

Make sure to cinevise them with Cordvision gears, step up rings and front caps.

I'm also thinking about dropping oval aperture inserts into my lenses for some anamorphic bokeh: http://www.tferradans.com/blog/?p=8920

Just wanted to thank you for mentioning this set. Tested 20mm, 58mm and 85mm today and really love them! They are supertiny and I think they produce a smooth, organic and over all great looking image - a bit similar to Lomo´s I think.. Looking forward to get the others!

 

[jordan levy]

also the mir-10a 28mm is cool!

 

[Mike Quill]

I skipped that one because it's a 3.5. What do you like about it?

also the mir-10a 28mm is cool!

 

[jordan levy]

I skipped that one because it's a 3.5. What do you like about it?

i know but its one of my favorite ones, built like a tank and renders beautiful colors, sharp as well.
i have that whole set except the 20mm.
a few of them ive collected their oldest models, like the 37mm, but then also got a new old stock one and put it away.
maybe its time some rehouses these
full frame russian set!

oh and that 135mm, i think it has like 18 iris blades or something crazy like that.

 

[Bill Stengel]

hey guys,

Newish to the forum here and wanted to get some opinions on a set of primes to buy.

I'm looking for a bit of an older softer look if possible. My favorite lenses I've ever used on a RED were an old set of ARRI super speeds. Obviously its impossible to completely re-create that with something cheaper but I've seen all the variety of duclos re-housings and was just wondering what would be the advantages to say Leica vs Nikkor vs Zeiss. Generally a lot of the newer more expensive cine primes I've found to be a little too crisp for my personal taste.

Thoughts on what kind of set would be best? Looking to spend somewhere around 5k-15k.

I'm in a similar boat. I'm editing a piece I shot on mkiii Super Speeds and I'm smitten with the image they make but can't rationalize the $50k+ the set would cost The only other cine primes I've used with any regularity are CN-E's, which are affordable but are soulless in comparison.

 

[Mike Quill]

Alright I'm buying the 28mm I believe Nick Gardner rehoused his mir 37mm.

i know but its one of my favorite ones, built like a tank and renders beautiful colors, sharp as well.
i have that whole set except the 20mm.
a few of them ive collected their oldest models, like the 37mm, but then also got a new old stock one and put it away.
maybe its time some rehouses these
full frame russian set!

oh and that 135mm, i think it has like 18 iris blades or something crazy like that.

 

[jordan levy]

I'm in a similar boat. I'm editing a piece I shot on mkiii Super Speeds and I'm smitten with the image they make but can't rationalize the $50k+ the set would cost The only other cine primes I've used with any regularity are CN-E's, which are affordable but are soulless in comparison.

you might want to look into the gloptics rehoused contax zeiss. these lenses have been rehoused even way back on the 80's for cine purposes.
if you have pl mount, then id go with maybe getting an 18 and 25 super speed (or standard speed), then 35, 50, 85 rehoused contax.

 

[Nick Morrison]

you might want to look into the gloptics rehoused contax zeiss. these lenses have been rehoused even way back on the 80's for cine purposes.
if you have pl mount, then id go with maybe getting an 18 and 25 super speed (or standard speed), then 35, 50, 85 rehoused contax.

Yup, we use a full set of cinemodded Contax Primes and Zooms...and also have an EOS modded 16 and 24 Standard Prime (early "B-Speed" type versions)...to round out the set...

 

[jordan levy]

Yup, we use a full set of cinemodded Contax Primes and Zooms...and also have an EOS modded 16 and 24 Standard Prime (early "B-Speed" type versions)...to round out the set...

i still want to eos mod a 16mm!
or im checking if dulcos can put a 5mm pl mount on them to use with a pl to eos adapter.
id still love to see pictures of your mods when you get a chance!

 

[Mathias Erichsen]

Ok, just for fun I made this unscientific test of my 80/85mm lenses.
Canon FD Aspherical 85mm 1.2, Jupiter-9 85mm 2.0, Leica-R Lux 80mm 1.4 and Mamiya 80mm 1.9. All were set to f2.8 and focus was on the text on the iPhone box..
Don`t know if anyone else than me will enjoy this "test" tho

 

[Mathias Erichsen]

Can you tell me how that step down ring is attached to the lens? Was it glued?

I think it is glued, yes. It is a hoya super hmc skylight 1b 77mm (without the glass) that is in there now. It works just fine

Edit: it vignettes a bit om my Sony a7s II - full frame 4:3 photo (not FF video)... Guess that is caused by the extra filter ring.
PS: There is no vignette on Dragon 6k

 

[Mark M]

Ok, just for fun I made this unscientific test of my 80/85mm lenses.
Canon FD Aspherical 85mm 1.2, Jupiter-9 85mm 2.0, Leica-R Lux 80mm 1.4 and Mamiya 80mm 1.9. All were set to f2.8 and focus was on the text on the iPhone box..
Don`t know if anyone else than me will enjoy this "test" tho

Interesting comparison Mathias (I enjoyed it too

In these examples the Leica R 80 Lux looks to be the overall sharpest, followed by the 85 Canon FD Asph, then Maimiya, then the Jupiter (and not inferring sharper is 'better' per-say).

 

[Mathias Erichsen]

Interesting comparison Mathias (I enjoyed it too

In these examples the Leica R 80 Lux looks to be the overall sharpest, followed by the 85 Canon FD Asph, then Maimiya, then the Jupiter (and not inferring sharper is 'better' per-say).

That is my conclusion too

 

[Mike Quill]

I think my favorite image is the Mamiya because of the nice highlight bloom. Also like the saturation/vibrance of the Jupiter even though it's softer.

Ok, just for fun I made this unscientific test of my 80/85mm lenses.
Canon FD Aspherical 85mm 1.2, Jupiter-9 85mm 2.0, Leica-R Lux 80mm 1.4 and Mamiya 80mm 1.9. All were set to f2.8 and focus was on the text on the iPhone box..
Don`t know if anyone else than me will enjoy this "test" tho

 

[Mike Quill]

How do your oldest models compare with your newer ones?

i know but its one of my favorite ones, built like a tank and renders beautiful colors, sharp as well.
i have that whole set except the 20mm.
a few of them ive collected their oldest models, like the 37mm, but then also got a new old stock one and put it away.
maybe its time some rehouses these
full frame russian set!

oh and that 135mm, i think it has like 18 iris blades or something crazy like that.

 

[Jason Mavrokefalos]

Yup, we use a full set of cinemodded Contax Primes and Zooms...and also have an EOS modded 16 and 24 Standard Prime (early "B-Speed" type versions)...to round out the set...

Hi Nick,

How did you EOS modded the 16/24 Standard primes if you don't mind me asking? I have a 16/24/40 mini set that I was thinking to mod, I've seen some ARRI B to EOS adapters from RAF cameras, but he uses screws which I'm not really fond of.

Thanks

 

[Nick Morrison]

Hi Nick,

How did you EOS modded the 16/24 Standard primes if you don't mind me asking? I have a 16/24/40 mini set that I was thinking to mod, I've seen some ARRI B to EOS adapters from RAF cameras, but he uses screws which I'm not really fond of.

Thanks

RP lens did it for me. They wont do it any longer, as was too complicated. But I believe Paul Scaglione at Visual Products can help you out!! He can do ANYTHING.