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Looking at the more powerfull PC notebook for CS55 and more

Olivier Madar

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Hi,

After the 2011 move from FCP to CS5, I think 2012 will b the move from MacbookPro to Notebook PC.
Did someone here use a laptop like the pantehr 2 from eurocom ?
I wonder if the hdmi out from the nvidia gtx 580 is good for monitoring. And what about the noise ? I see you can now have 6 core and 3 SSD at the same time.
OK, it is not cheap, but if you can only use notebook, isn't it a big change from the actual MBP i7 ?


Olivier
 
Be aware that notebooks like Panther 2.0 are full blown desktop replacements. Think Mac Pro in a notebook. If you are coming from a Macbook Pro - yes, they will be several times as powerful - but you pay for the power with heft. They can be twice as heavy and thick as a MBP 17. Also, battery life is terrible. If you seek a blend of power and mobility, you might want to look at notebooks like Origin EON-17s. There are quite literally hundreds of excellent notebook PCs out there. Choose based on your usage scenario.
 
5 or 6 kg doesn't bother me. What I would like to be sure is to have the monitoring option on the hdmi output (on a Pana 9 BH910) with RedCine X and PPro. Then i will put 3 SSD 500 and 24 G RAM. So, I can then use R3D directly in the timeline

Olivier
 
Olivier Madar said:
5 or 6 kg doesn't bother me. What I would like to be sure is to have the monitoring option on the hdmi output (on a Pana 9 BH910) with RedCine X and PPro. Then i will put 3 SSD 500 and 24 G RAM. So, I can then use R3D directly in the timeline

Olivier
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It will act as a multi-monitor setup. Everything in Premiere Pro follows the "windows" principle. You can drag out anything in the interface and drag it across between monitors, create docks, size and position them to your will, etc. You can simply drag out the viewer and maximize it on your external monitor. I don't think RedCine X Pro is not built on the same logic and neither is Resolve on Windows (yet, although the scopes are dockable). Pretty much every other Windows software follows this principle though.

The Elitebooks with 10-bit IPS Dreamcolor displays are excellent laptops for mobile grading. 6-bit TN panels in consumer laptops like MBP simply don't cut it for image work.
 
Getting a good 10 bits image on the pana 9 through the hdmi output of the nvidia card is the most important thing for me for premiere and redcinex ( i am not sure it will work in the same manner with resolve because, on mac pro, resolve use 1 nvidia only for computing not for the screen, you have to put another one if you want a screen)
I should have bought an hp dreamcolor if hp didnot annonce that they were stopping to build pc some times ago.

Olivier
 
Olivier Madar said:
Getting a good 10 bits image on the pana 9 through the hdmi output of the nvidia card is the most important thing for me for premiere and redcinex ( i am not sure it will work in the same manner with resolve because, on mac pro, resolve use 1 nvidia only for computing not for the screen, you have to put another one if you want a screen)
I should have bought an hp dreamcolor if hp didnot annonce that they were stopping to build pc some times ago.

Olivier
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Leo Apotheker, the CEO who was behind that strategy is long gone and HP are now fully committed towards HP's PC division - as they have been since the dawn of the personal computer. Even if that had stuck, the announcement wasn't "We are stopping building PCs", it was simply "We are evaluating spinning off our PC Division (or maybe consider selling) and concentrate on software". Apotheker's reign is in the past and much of his decisions have been reversed.

Anyway, to get a 10-bit image you would need a Quadro GPU. However, it will only work with Premiere Pro or software that support Quadro's 10-bit path. Might require external hardware like Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for other software like RedCine-X. I am not familiar with this - hopefully someone who is can chime in.
 
Subhadip Sen said:
Leo Apotheker, the CEO who was behind that strategy is long gone and HP are now fully committed towards HP's PC division - as they have been since the dawn of the personal computer. Even if that had stuck, the announcement wasn't "We are stopping building PCs", it was simply "We are evaluating spinning off our PC Division (or maybe consider selling) and concentrate on software". Apotheker's reign is in the past and much of his decisions have been reversed.

Anyway, to get a 10-bit image you would need a Quadro GPU. However, it will only work with Premiere Pro or software that support Quadro's 10-bit path. Might require external hardware like Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for other software like RedCine-X. I am not familiar with this - hopefully someone who is can chime in.
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Thank you for this clarification subhadip,

Ok, so hp notebook are also on the race.
Do you think a gtx580 would not produce the same 10bits monitoring output, even with hdmi output ?
How do you connect a black magic card on a notebook without thunderbolt ?

Olivier

Olivier
 
Olivier Madar said:
Thank you for this clarification subhadip,

Ok, so hp notebook are also on the race.
Do you think a gtx580 would not produce the same 10bits monitoring output, even with hdmi output ?
How do you connect a black magic card on a notebook without thunderbolt ?

Olivier
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GeForce cards are restricted to 8-bit output. You will need a Quadro GPU for 10-bit (once again, only with supported software on Windows. You should also confirm with Eurocom whether the HDMI out is 10-bit capable - in some lower-end desktop Quadro GPUs only the DisplayPort out is 10-bit). There are USB 3.0 variants for both Intensity and Ultrastudio. Between them I am sure you will find what you are looking for.
 
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