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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

lomo lenses?

Yes, sorry it is 22mm... hmmm, may use it as an effect-lense. If I ever need a soft look with lots of flare :)
Do you think the lomos will cover the s35mm (30x15) sensor in the up comming S35?
Thx for the info
 
Converting the Lomo lenses from Oct-19 (or other) is rather difficult.
I'll use a Zeiss B-mount speed for comparison. Zeiss made the rear housing on their speeds all the same, so one conversion mount works the same on the entire range of a given series. The Lomos, on the other hand, are all different. Some require heavy modification and custom parts, and some are simple to just slap a new mount onto.
It's very hard to determine a price for converting them as each lens is different.
It's always easier to give an idea of price if we have the lens in our shop and can actually take measurements and consider dimensions. I've seen some Lomos that came from Russia with mounts that look as if they were forged in an easy bake oven...
 
Bérenger Brillante said:
The lomo I don't recommend is the 22 t2. It's not t2, but t2.4, it's soft, and flare easily. I've never seen a 24mm, so i suppose you speak about the 22.
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I have 12 lomos and the 22mm t2.4 from 1989. They range in quality but I only paid around $2200 for all of them. I did use them side by side with the Zeiss Superspeeds and found them quite comparable far as image.

Does anyone have any experience with www.spbsale.com? I'm not thrilled about sending lenses over seas.
 
Yes, I have had good experiences with www.spbsale.com, though it does mean shipping your lenses to St. Petersburg and back. I would also emphasize that all LOMO's are not necessarily worth the time and money it takes to bring them up to current professional standards. I think this is really only worth it if the lenses are very late model and in very good shape. The older ones are usually pretty raggedy. Chosen carefully they are a good deal, but many of them are only good for target practice with your 22...
Rob Gardner
 
GFIRob said:
Yes, I have had good experiences with www.spbsale.com, though it does mean shipping your lenses to St. Petersburg and back. I would also emphasize that all LOMO's are not necessarily worth the time and money it takes to bring them up to current professional standards. I think this is really only worth it if the lenses are very late model and in very good shape. The older ones are usually pretty raggedy. Chosen carefully they are a good deal, but many of them are only good for target practice with your 22...
Rob Gardner
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Thanks.

I have 6 very good ones, t1.4, 1.5. So I may take a chance and send them off.
 
Sounds like you have Ekran speeds. Those are better than LOMO's.
 
Thomas Patrick C. said:
Thanks.

I have 6 very good ones, t1.4, 1.5. So I may take a chance and send them off.
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you bought 12 Lomos for 2200 and six of them are speeds? That's $183 each for a cinema lens. Wow, you are a lucky bastard. I'd say that today's asking price for that set would be about $9,000. What is your secret?
 
Thomas Patrick C. said:
Don't know if this helps you, but here is a 75mm lomo, ckbk, 1989.


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That is a stunning image. I see some strange things going on in a few of the strands of hair, but look at how sharp yet creamy her skin is around her nose and eyes. Wow!
 
Navigas said:
I hope there will be an OCT19 mount for the S35... Or else I´ll have to change them to PL. Guess that is kind of expensive?

Mathias Erichsen
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Jim has clearly stated that the only mounts will be Canon, Nikon, PL, and the RED mounts for the Scarlet. He said that he expects third party vendors to fill in the gaps. So someone is going to make a lot of $$ if they sell, a RED approved OCT19 mount for the Scarlet/Epic.

Currently, Douglas Underahl sells an unapproved OCT19 mount for the RED One. It uses a plate he makes, bolted on to the front half of Cinevate's OCT19 mount for the Brevis adapter. Its too bad its not approved. Its also too bad that the only folks making OCT19 mounts are 35mm adapter manufacturers. They have no incentive to make a RED/Scarlet/Epic adapter because that would take away sales of their core products.

I also spoke with someone at Visual Products, who makes the BNCR mount for the RED. They have no plans to make a BNCR mount for the Scarlet/Epic or to make an OCT19 mount for any RED product, even though the mounts are nearly identical. (My personal guess is that they have not sold that many and can't justify the investment in this economy).

I have to ask though, with regard to Douglas Underahl's OCT19 mount, how would RED know that an unapproved mount has been slapped on for a week or two, such that the warranty is now voided?
 
texasmfp said:
That is a stunning image. I see some strange things going on in a few of the strands of hair, but look at how sharp yet creamy her skin is around her nose and eyes. Wow!
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Thanks texasmfp,

I think the strands were from a tight Indian braid she had in her hair just prior.

Here are a few more. First is a 500 asa, wide open 200mm, CKBK, t3.4. Sun has disappeared, it was dark out 15 minutes later.

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This is a 50mm, t1.4


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Hope these can help on the lomo/ckbk/ekran mystery.
 
Those are truly tunning images in my book Thomas, wow! Now, could someone please shed some light on a brief introduction/history on the Lomo & Ekran lenses, i.e.: How many lenses are there, which are better, from what to what year were they produced, etc, etc? I have a couple of contacts in Russia within the film industry and I could have them hunt down for me a couple of sets of these lenses for me, but I wanna have some more concrete information on them first before committing to them...
 
Rudi Herbert said:
Those are truly tunning images in my book Thomas, wow! Now, could someone please shed some light on a brief introduction/history on the Lomo & Ekran lenses, i.e.: How many lenses are there, which are better, from what to what year were they produced, etc, etc? I have a couple of contacts in Russia within the film industry and I could have them hunt down for me a couple of sets of these lenses for me, but I wanna have some more concrete information on them first before committing to them...
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There are probably more russian lenses that have ever been offered by Cooke, Kinoptik, and Arri combined. There are too many to list. Not only do you have every focal length, but most have a whole series of models in each length that go up to 10th or 11th edition. There are also several brands (Lomo, Ekran, as well as their predecessor company names like CKBK and Leninknap). There are standard speeds as well as superspeeds. There are square front anamorphics and round front anamorphics. There are series of zooms. There are two main mounts - OCT18 and OCT 19. Finally there are two styles, one for the Konvas cameras and one for the Kinor 35 cameras.

In general, you want OCT19 mounted lenses of the latest vintage (last made in 1992). You will find Russian optics going back as far as the 1950s, however.

If you do establish some contacts, please clue me in. There are a few particular lenses that I am looking for. Cheers
 
Texasmpf is right.

Some information about Russian lenses can be found at:

http://rafcamera.com/movie-cameras-lenses-c-27_29.html

But really, it the lenses are not from the very late '80's or early '90's they are probably not worth the trouble, with the exception of square front anamorphics, which have their own charm. Ekrans are generally better built than Lomo's and the housings for Kinors are generally better than those for Konvas (easier to put gears on).
Rob Gardner
 
texasmfp said:
you bought 12 Lomos for 2200 and six of them are speeds? That's $183 each for a cinema lens. Wow, you are a lucky bastard. I'd say that today's asking price for that set would be about $9,000. What is your secret?
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Perhaps buying when demand is less :w00t:
 
There is a lot of info on Lomos on the cinematography forum.

Also here,

http://www.geocities.com/kinor35/lenses/lens.htm

In general, when the Soviets came out with the Kinor 35 series of cameras, they were designed with a super 35mm gate, so all the lenses made for those cameras covered super 35. I would say that it's worth your time to look for late 80's to early 90's lomo and Ekran primes. The Ekrans are the fast ones at t-1.4-1.6

The lenses made for the Konvas 2m if they are from the same time period, have the same glass and optical design, but they have a different housing. The Kinor lenses all have the same size front housing, and most focal lengths have the gear in the same spot. They will have 50 pitch gears on them to work with the Kinor FF (these are held on by 3 screws and easily removed).

As far quantity of lenses made, I have no idea, but it was a lot. Keep in mind that the Soviets ran all their factories on a quota system. They had to make so many of such and such a month. Then somebody would decide the the Ministry of Hay Bailing Sciences needed a 35mm motion picture package to make training films, and there it sat for ten years till somebody found it and sold it. Soviet warehouses were mostly built out of pre poured slabs of concrete that fit poorly and often leaked badly. That is why there are plenty of "Brand new, never before bin used" lenses full of fungus. Also, the fancy aluminum cases they came in had foam in them that is as hard as plywood. So a lot of lenses look really beat up just from traveling in their cases.

A note on history, The Soviet Union went away in 91. I have seen Lomos with serial numbers indicating that they were made in '92. Then lenses that were made by Ekran (the 25-80 zoom) made in 94, and then later the same lens was marketed by Elite.

I have been in touch with the folks at both Lomo and Elite, but no one has ever answered any of my questions regarding the history of Soviet cinema lenses.

Cheers,

Nick
 
texasmfp said:
you bought 12 Lomos for 2200 and six of them are speeds? That's $183 each for a cinema lens. Wow, you are a lucky bastard. I'd say that today's asking price for that set would be about $9,000. What is your secret?
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Its not as glamorous as it sounds, I did get some good lenses when I was buying them more than 2 years ago, but also got some not as good "as described". Dealing with the Russian dealers selling these lenses is taking a chance. My best LOMO I believe is a 1979 100mm t3.1 I paid $50 for. I have another 28mm t1.4 I paid $550 for and it fell apart when I opened the box. Its still apart.
 
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