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LIST of Lens Sets that cover 6k

Solomon Walker said:
But put a FF Canon lens on a 5D, and compare that to the same lens on a Black magic Camera. If you can think of a better term to describe the difference between the two images then do let all of us simpletons know what we should be calling it instead.
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"Sensor size".
 
Nick Gardner said:
"Crop factor" doesn't exist and is a concept born of simple minds.
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Nils J. Nesse said:
"Sensor size".
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Which determines a crop factor in relation to full frame sensor cameras...
a fifty is a fifty and the look is the same on EVERY cameras regardless of their sensor size but crop factor EXISTS and lives in well educated minds too!!!
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Michael Hardwick said:
Take a good hard look at the 18mm Super Speed Mk3 at 5K Full Frame. May not be hard portholing, but there is noticeable vignetting/shading in the corners.
5K 2:1? No problem
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Yup.
A bit surprised to see the standards and supers on this list...

Like, the supers, though. The wider standards... Not so much...
 
It may just be semantics - but DOF is widened as sensors get smaller... So a nifty fifty won't really look the same regardless of sensor size, it will be "zoomed in" and DOF will be different...
 
Sold my ZF and went Contax... for the warmth, the kindness to skin, the larger focus barrel, and pure old school feel.

ZF is great if you want stark, hyperreal photographic images / if you hate veiling flare and shoot right into lights a lot.

Contax is great if you want images with a bit less contrast but a lot more texture.
 
So how about the Rokinon budget cine lenses? They should cover, right? But will the quality be up to standard?
 
Timur,
I have complet Cine-Set If you want for test, please come by.

cheers
 
The only way to accurately test coverage of a lens (and its defects/distortions when used on a larger than intended sensor size) is to throw it on a lens test projector. It is a $15K+ investment to buy the cheapest (Century) and that is just for one mount. Add about $2K per additional mount (such as FD, BNCR, Arri Standard, etc...)
 
Dave Blackham said:
Yep, your right they are nice lenses. Id rather have contact then ZF anyday
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Oh dear...
latest 25 mm, 35 mm, 15mm and upcoming 135mm and 55mm will walk over your Contax. And how about 50mm Macro and especially 100mm macro-the best still macro made.
 
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Jiri Vrozina said:
Oh dear...
latest 25 mm, 35 mm, 15mm and upcoming 135mm and 55mm will walk over your Contax. And how about 50mm Macro and especially 100mm macro-the best still macro made.
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I guess I'm just a little different then, as I'm not into selecting a particular lens because it walks all over an earlier version of said lens. I choose a lens based on my needs for a particular look I'm trying to achieve. Some shots need a clean cutting look, others need a low contrast feel, some need a soft character to the skin tones. Some would argue that the Cooke S4 lenses would walk all over my S2/3 set, yet I find the look of the series II/III rather pleasing when shooting people. Same holds true with the comparison between the Zeiss ZF & Zeiss Contax lenses. I just happen to prefer the look of the Contax lenses over the ZF lenses. Nothing wrong with new Zeiss ZF/CP.2 lenses, I'm just a different bird who happens to like a different look.
 
David W. Jones said:
I guess I'm just a little different then, as I'm not into selecting a particular lens because it walks all over an earlier version of said lens. I choose a lens based on my needs for a particular look I'm trying to achieve. Some shots need a clean cutting look, others need a low contrast feel, some need a soft character to the skin tones. Some would argue that the Cooke S4 lenses would walk all over my S2/3 set, yet I find the look of the series II/III rather pleasing when shooting people. Same holds true with the comparison between the Zeiss ZF & Zeiss Contax lenses. I just happen to prefer the look of the Contax lenses over the ZF lenses. Nothing wrong with new Zeiss ZF/CP.2 lenses, I'm just a different bird who happens to like a different look.
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Well said.
one of my favorites are Nikon AIS 85mm f1.4 and 50mm f1.2. Better then Zeiss 85 and 50 f1.4.
 
David W. Jones said:
I guess I'm just a little different then, as I'm not into selecting a particular lens because it walks all over an earlier version of said lens. I choose a lens based on my needs for a particular look I'm trying to achieve. Some shots need a clean cutting look, others need a low contrast feel, some need a soft character to the skin tones. Some would argue that the Cooke S4 lenses would walk all over my S2/3 set, yet I find the look of the series II/III rather pleasing when shooting people. Same holds true with the comparison between the Zeiss ZF & Zeiss Contax lenses. I just happen to prefer the look of the Contax lenses over the ZF lenses. Nothing wrong with new Zeiss ZF/CP.2 lenses, I'm just a different bird who happens to like a different look.
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Couldn't agree more. I also prefer the look Contax noticeably over the cleaner, pristine look of ZF/ZE. I just participated in an informal test this week comparing Contax Zeiss to Zeiss Super Speeds and Zeiss Standard Primes, and indeed all these lenses had remarkably similar coatings and looks (they were all made by Zeiss at the same time). In fact, at 5.6 they were all indistinguishable. At T2 however, the Standard's were clearly the sharpest. Wide open, the Contax glass and SuperSpeeds seamed comparable.

So if you want that vintage, wonderful Zeiss "look" associated with Supers and Standards, then Contax glass has it in spades...across a much larger image circle.

If you want resolution and a clean look (ala Ultra Primes), then by all means....the new ZF/ZE 35 f2, 50f2, 25 f2 are spectacular.

There is never a CORRECT answer. There are always CHOICES.

I personally would rather have a plethora of CHOICES, than be locked into a small set of OPTIONS. That's why I started collecting Contax glass, cuz I could afford so many of them, quickly. And arrive on set with dozens of choices. Over time, I started to fall in love with that wonderful, classic look the T* coating from that era gives them.

Also worth noting, we threw up a Hassleblad from the same era, and it "matched" as well.

PS - I did this test with the one and only Ryan De Franco, who I'm sure can chime in add more info.

The test was very informal, so please don't ask for any samples. We may do a more presentable test at a later date, this was just for our own private edification, that we still feel it's worth sharing some of our early findings.
 
Matthew B said:
It may just be semantics - but DOF is widened as sensors get smaller... So a nifty fifty won't really look the same regardless of sensor size, it will be "zoomed in" and DOF will be different...
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Not correct. DOF will be the same at any given distance no matter what the sensor size (other things being equal).

Wise were the ones who bought legacy SLR lenses before mirrorless cameras became popular!
 
Ryan De Franco said:
All lenses make an image circle, inside of which is the rectangular format they were designed to cover. Outside of that rectangle, lens engineers didn't need to care about any of the 7 aberrations, or sharpness, or color shift.
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Thanks Ryan, I now completely understand. So making this list is a large matter of opinion.
 
Thanks Pawel. As the MP are the end goal in a purchasing hierarchy I am working on, I shoot 2.35:1 and love it.

Pawel Achtel said:
They will cover in 2.4:1 aspect ratio. The image circle that I measured is about 31.1mm and this is where they are razor sharp. Slightly larger where they are still not vignetting.
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