Letter to MR Jannard, 3D Sound Holophonics™, Opportunity for Red Digital Cinema.

[Martín Yernazian]

OK fellas, I apologize for the delay I been really busy working in my own projects, to contact MR Zuccarelli and their group.
At the same time I have been preparing a blog with sound clips and articles describing the technology, that's , honestly the best I could do.

I have to also make a point here, this was a letter to MR Jannard and his team, to try to set up a meeting between them and Zuccarelli to demonstrate the technology, showing everything in there, up and close and in person so any doubts will be full field, probably and more likely this wasn't the best place to send such letter.

I understand the skepticism, I one of them myself, but you have to understand that asking for the mathematical equation of this technology is ludacris to be post in a forum as open as this one. (or any off them) something like that is given to those that buy the technology and I don't even think it goes that far, if not how easily will be to steal it.

KHMUSE, we appreciate your interest in reviewing the material, but as HUgo have told me, the Technology has been reviewed plenty of times, and I will put some of the articles up as soon as I can so you can read them, the best I could do if you sent me your email I could send you a PDF file describing everything that I have propose here.
Some of you are right, I should have something ready to go before I posted here, on that matter I apologize for the delay or the wait.

Thanks Very much

ps: Graeme, I don't know what you tried to implied, but the honest truth was that when we sent this letter to MR Jannard and his team, we got an automated response, so we posted in 2 forums that we respect
Cinematography.com and REDuser.net.... thinking that Jim will read the letter and contact us so we can take 15 minutes of his time to demonstrate, that's all we need it.

Again guys in the next couple of days I will put a web address with a new blog made just to fulfill your doubts , Thanks again

 

[Graeme Nattress]

I am his team though (or part of it). Jim does not have time for everything that could come his way. Think of us as gatekeepers in that if we think it's interesting we'll tell Jim about it.

It's not ludicrous to ask for the math because if it's patented, then that math must be in the patent (as patents need full disclosure) and hence all you need to give us is the patent number. If it's not patented, then you should not be mentioning anything about it at all.

KHMuse is an audio professional. I have significant knowledge and understanding of audio issues, as do many other posters on this forum.

We're very interested to learn about your technology, you've just got to get us the information about what it is and we can take it from there.

Graeme

 

[Martín Yernazian]

Then that's clear, I will pass the information to the forum and more specially to you,
About the patent and the math, I think that's between Hugo and your team, I don't even know that info, as I said I will pass all the info I have in the next couple of days

Best

 

[Graeme Nattress]

Thanks. That's appreciated.

Graeme

 

[Eugene]

OK, stereo is good enough.

OK, stereo is good enough.

Graeme is right. Stereo is good enough.

I saw an art exibit in Brasil. It was a surround sound art installation. They had a lot of speakers, and you know what? My ears/brain really couldn't tell which speaker the sound was coming from (more than right or left) unless I turned my head. And truning your head is something you don't want to do while watching a movie. And I really couldn't hear sounds coming from behind me. So, Graeme is right. Stereo sound is good enough. It took a lot of speakers and a trip to Brasil to prove to myself that I was wrong.

 

[Harmoniser]

Then that's clear, I will pass the information to the forum and more specially to you,
About the patent and the math, I think that's between Hugo and your team, I don't even know that info, as I said I will pass all the info I have in the next couple of days

Best

To me it seems that "Holophonics" is basically binaural sound in a colorful package. I read that Zuccarelli claims it to be an audio equivalent to holography, recording the interference patterns between the incoming sound and an inaudible reference tone that the ear itself is supposed to emit.

However, after 27 years there still seems to be no theory or evidence for this. And Zuccarellis patents apparently only involves the construction of a recording head, not any of the so-called holographic recording technique.

The only sound samples I was able to get hold of were things like the matchbox, which sound, well binaural. As I understood it, the claim is that holophonics produce a quadrophonic kind of sound, but I could not hear any of that from the samples I heard.

Maybe you can present something that can convince us?

 

[Graeme Nattress]

And, of course, elsewhere on this forum we have the Tetramic, which uses four channels to accurately record an entire 3D soundfield, which can be decoded as any type of mic or micing arrangement in post. Ambisonics is real technology that's been around for ages and has fully proven itself.

Graeme

 

[Lexicon]

That Zuccarelli person has been trying to sell his stuff for almost 30 years. Looks like he's been sliced to pieces by the scientific community in various publications for his claims after he got some fame from having it used once or twice in the 80's. I guess he's achieved Legendary Quack status or something cause I can't find anyone who is using his "technology" apart from some secret stuff he is reputed to be developing and a claim that he's installed "special" systems at some South American venues.