Leica Vantage Cine Lenses

[Sanjin Jukic]

Leica Vantage Cine Lenses

I found this by accident at Vantage web page:

The following focal lengths are available
19, 21, 24, 28, 35, 60, 90, 135, 180mm, all T2.8
in PL or PV mount.

Maybe this could be the set of Leica Cine Lenses that I heard about it before!!?

LINK>>>

 

[Evin Grant]

Doubtful. Vantage makes a bunch of their own lenses including the Hawk Anamorphics.
I think these are just rehouse Leica R lenses. The focal lengths match.

 

[Mitch Gross]

The Vantage rehousings of Leica R lenses is a newer rehousing than the Van Dieman rehousings of the early 1990s, but the glass remains the same.

 

[D Namir]

Leica Vantage Cine Lenses

I found this by accident at Vantage web page:

The following focal lengths are available
19, 21, 24, 28, 35, 60, 90, 135, 180mm, all T2.8
in PL or PV mount.

Maybe this could be the set of Leica Cine Lenses that I heard about it before!!?

LINK>>>

I also think these just different rehousing than Van Diemen. Due to the global recession I don't think Leica will come out with new cine lenses.

 

[Joe Walker]

What's the price tag on these puppies?!

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Somebody interested to now more about it should probably call Vantage Film GmbH and ask.

 

[Pawel Achtel]

I was quoted 55.900,00 Euros for the Hawk 150-450mm/T2.8 zoom.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

I was quoted 55.900,00 Euros for the Hawk 150-450mm/T2.8 zoom.

Definitely Vantage lenses are not cheap.

They are from Germany, has German quality craft and have German prices that are also in general always expensive like other EU based lens technologies (Angenieux, Cooke, Zeiss, Leica...).

 

[Michael Bravin]

Definitely Vantage lenses are not cheap.

They are from Germany, has German quality craft and have German prices that are also in general always expensive like other EU based lens technologies (Angenieux, Cooke, Zeiss, Leica...).

Sanjin

I don't think Leicester would be considered in the EU
The brits are VERY sensitive about such things

 

[John Chater]

I don't think Leicester would be considered in the EU
The brits are VERY sensitive about such things
Michael Bravin

Sorry Michael,
Your so often right.....but...... Leicester has been in the EU for 36yrs. Right now bet they wish the currency was joined too.

John
Chater Camera

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Sanjin

I don't think Leicester would be considered in the EU
The brits are VERY sensitive about such things

Would be better to say that lenses made in West(ern) Europe (EU, Switzerland and UK) are always expensive just because of very high production costs.

If somebody is interested in to read more about foreign relations of the United Kingdom and EU can find it here>>

UK and EU relations>>

Understanding the relations between the UK and the European Union>>

 

[Stephen Williams]

Would be better to say that lenses made in West(ern) Europe (EU, Switzerland and UK) are always expensive just because of very high production costs.

Hi Sanjin,

Highly motivated staff & very very high standards of quality control will never be cheap IMO. The difference between Cooke quality controls & 'Good Enough' can be seen in an economical PL mounted cine zoom.

Stephen

 

[Thomas Dobbie]

Hi Sanjin,

Quite a few people have rehoused these Leica macro's, including Arri Media,and I believe Panavision,however the VanDiemen lenses are unique, due to the variable pitch wireform focusing,which IMHO gives them the edge, in terms of mechanical function. It's a very clever system. These look like interesting lenses though.
I have the 60,100 and 135 VD macro's.
Tom.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Hi Sanjin,

Highly motivated staff & very very high standards of quality control will never be cheap IMO. The difference between Cooke quality controls & 'Good Enough' can be seen in an economical PL mounted cine zoom.

Stephen

Hi stephen,

no doubts that Cooke Optics Ltd. has one of the highest quality controls in cine lens production.

But we should not forget that Arri/Zeiss (German) and Angenieux (France) has also one of the highest quality controls in the lens production industry.

Last but not least is Leica that "claims" itself the highest still lens quality control that are also the most expensive.

Hi Sanjin,

Quite a few people have rehoused these Leica macro's, including Arri Media,and I believe Panavision,however the VanDiemen lenses are unique, due to the variable pitch wireform focusing,which IMHO gives them the edge, in terms of mechanical function. It's a very clever system. These look like interesting lenses though.
I have the 60,100 and 135 VD macro's.
Tom.

Hi Thomas,

Could be true about VanDiemen's Leica rehoused lenses.

I didn't have opportunity to try them yet.

By the way Leica AG's own cine lens division Leica Cinema GmbH is in liquidation now.

Economy crisis today has no mercy.

Who would be the next?

 

[Stephen Williams]

But we should not forget that Arri/Zeiss (German) and Angenieux (France) has also one of the highest quality controls in the lens production industry.
?

Hi,

Last time I checked new Zeiss & Angenieux glass was rather expensive not unlike Cooke, all 3 produce first class Cimena lenses.

Stephen

 

[David Rasberry]

Top Line Fujinon and Canon glass is just as expensive too.

 

[Thomas Dobbie]

Top Line Fujinon and Canon glass is just as expensive too.

David,
Agreed,it is expensive.
I have no personal experience with Canon or Fuji,cine and ENG glass,but I have found the quality of the stills lenses to be variable,same thing with Nikon.Something I haven't encountered with Leitz or Zeiss.
Tom.

 

[Michael Lindsay]

VanDiemen lenses are unique, due to the variable pitch wireform focusing,which IMHO gives them the edge,

out of curiosity how does that work?

thanks

Michael Lindsay

 

[Thomas Dobbie]

Michael,

to be honest I'm not very sure,I'm told that wire form is very common in engineering,but the particular use of it within the lens focusing mechanism must be quite unique in order to have a patent.
The focus of these lenses is extremely light and smooth.
I found this explanation on a wire form manufacturers site.
"Wire Forms typically are parts made from round wire that are bent to have specific angles and lengths. Most springs have a helix or spiral shape consisting of a group of coils, and wire forms typically do not."
Perhaps one of the more technical members here could illuminate further.

Tom.

 

[Michael Bravin]

Meant as a Joke

Meant as a Joke

I don't think Leicester would be considered in the EU
The brits are VERY sensitive about such things
Michael Bravin

Sorry Michael,
Your so often right.....but...... Leicester has been in the EU for 36yrs. Right now bet they wish the currency was joined too.

John
Chater Camera

I know the UK is, but Leicester? Apparently you've yet to meet anyone from there