Leica Summilux-C Primes

[Mark L. Pederson]

I <3 Leica font. I remember seeing it in my childhood elswhere. Not sure where.



You mean to say that you can add the cost of an other Leica and get both sets! Then I can rent both from the same guy.

The font is called "LG 1050" and it was specially created for Leica Camera.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

I wonder what their business model is on these?
Owner/operators will most probably not buy them because of the price tag.
Rental houses?

Besides all that, what would be the benefit if they were covering FF?
FF IMHO will only make sense with anamorphic lenses (unless you really want to shoot academy 4:3), or am I overlooking something?

Peter,

I'll just quote because of Otto our "fellow Austrian in LA":

"The first 25 sets of lenses will be delivered to Otto Nemenz International.
Their experienced team provided invaluable user input from the beginning of the design process."

LINK>>>

Other rentals will immediately follow...

FF35 lenses mostly can't reach speed @ T1.4 except with 50mm, 55mm and 85mm.

At all other focal lengths there are physical limitations if you want to keep lateral lens aberrations and distortions under certain control.

At the end give you some more nice fun with Leica lenses from tonight:

Shot on RED1-M with Leica Apo-Summicron-M ASPH 75mm f/2.0 @ 5.6, ISO 320, shutter 1/50.

Shot on RED1-M with Leica Apo-Summicron-M ASPH 75mm f/2.0 @ 5.6, ISO 320, shutter 1/50.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

Thanks for the name Mark. I figured it would be, which makes me wonder if it was just very similar (a rip-off) or I don't remember encountering a Leica at an early age. I doubt I'd be able to find one similar enough though.

Just look at that 4... how could you not love it? I think it must in fact make the lenses faster, much like Rosso Corsa makes Ferraris faster.

 

[Greg M]

You guys are too funny...that's a classic Leica font...personally I think the lens is beautiful.

 

[MichaelHalsell]

The font is called "LG 1050" and it was specially created for Leica Camera.

Thank you Mark.

 

[peter roehsler]

Interesting bit about Otto Nemenz - but as he was in the know, he has had enough time to adjust his rental inventory to this number of new lens sets arriving.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

You guys are too funny...that's a classic Leica font...personally I think the lens is beautiful.

Greg, you are right

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

Just look at that 4... how could you not love it?

Yes - the 4 totally rules.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

The font is called "LG 1050" and it was specially created for Leica Camera.

Mark thanks for the info.

 

[MichaelHalsell]

I will close the font discussion, so that thread can continue discussing the fine optical qualities of the Leica Summilux-C Primes by simply suggesting that in this specific instance, the focal length size, typeface, and position seem to compete in an unflattering way with the Leica logo.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

Also I very happy because new R1 MX sensor has better high ISO performance than FF35mm Kodak made CCD sensor in new Leica M9.

Just to beat sometimes all those M9 photographers with better ISO on R1MX using best Leica M glass.

Happy again, and again, and again,...!!! :emote_happyhappy: :emote_happyhappy: :emote_happyhappy:

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

That's the spirit SJ, grab someone else's photo and blow it up! Right on the page.

I will close the font discussion, so that thread can continue discussing the fine optical qualities of the Leica Summilux-C Primes by simply suggesting that in this specific instance, the focal length size, typeface, and position seem to compete in an unflattering way with the Leica logo.

I'd say the focal length does point to the logo, making it a bit snobby perhaps. Like (un cool) "Look, I am shooting on Leica... oh, yea... u like that? You know you do... that's right, how bout them apples?" LOL, or maybe that's just my immature and sleep deprived self speaking. xP

But agree, that we obviously need to get some frikken samples up in here, and only M-X will do! :sifone:

 

[randywedick]

Oooh, been setting up all day. I missed the thrilling font discussion.

Mitch's selection struck a real chord with the design team and they have decided to fab new lens housings with Comic Sans written on them due to today's feedback. Hope to have them before the start of the show.

Matt, you are on the short list for checking these puppies out.

Attached are some behind the scenes iphone pix from booth setup.

Randy Wedick
Technical Consultant
Band Pro Film & Digital

 

[Greg M]

nice, look even better mounted.

For Sale: One set of mint condition Ultra Primes.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

They look so small mounted.

 

[Andrew Rieger]

Funny, $20,000 lens on $1700 camera. I've seen seen a rogue on a 7D, hard to find the actual camera.

 

[Sanjin Jukic]

They (RED and Band Pro) should show us at NAB how it looks Epic with Leica SC Prime on.

Epic body lightweight 5 lbs (2.3 kg) + Leica SC PL Prime Lightweight 3.5-4.0 lbs (1.6-1.8kg) = 8.5 - 9 lbs (3.9 - 4.1 kg).

That's something else in terms of lightweight camera with a fast prime lens that Alexa, Aaton Penelope ∆, etc... or maybe upcoming SI 4K can't compete with it.

 

[Roberto Lequeux]

I may not be a DP, but do notice there is great logic behind what David Mullen says about lens contrast and diffusion filters. Also, I love the man's work, so I'll assume I like all of what he likes.

I know from him mentioning it several times that he mostly works with either Zeiss or Panavision glass. I asked -with much less cinematographical wisdom in my questioning than the one he infuses his answers with- how he felt about the up-coming Leica primes:

With all the monkeying around that happens to the image in post, especially to the contrast, I don't get too hung up on the subtle differences between the top lenses on the market -- they exist of course, and some people prefer one over the other, but I think some of those differences can be timed out in post. Besides, most people have to mix some zoom lens stuff in there anyway.

However, I do like the idea that now there are T/1.4 options. I hope Panavision follows the trend and makes some T/1.4 Primos.

Though not necessarily "sexy" what I like about Primos / Leitz is their neutrality, they seem less warm than Cookes and less cold than Zeiss. Same goes for contrast, the Primos are somewhere in between the lower contrast of Cookes and the higher contrast of Zeiss.

You might want to see what my questioning read like on his thread in the cinematography section, but you get the picture. I think here I was mainly asking about focus fall off, the transition between in-focus and OOF areas:

Well, softer contrast lenses naturally tend to have less "snap" and therefore focus seems to roll through more smoothly. But what seems smoother and more pleasant to one person seems soft to another person.

Also, I like using mild diffusion filters and therefore prefer sticking them on higher contrast lenses, mainly because I want the halation more than I just want more softness.

So, thinking that with a high contrast lens, such as Zeiss or RPPs, you can use very light diffusion filters and get a bit of halation without too much softness, which I suppose I see as "a bit dreamy, other-worldly, but with lots of detail".

In motion, of course, filters are commonplace. All of which makes me wonder if the C-Primes will look exactly like top shelf still Leicas, exactly like Panavision Primos, or if they might be slightly more contrasty than both. MPs being widely considered top dog, or at least more favored in the motion world, would perhaps inspire a small lean in their design towards more contrast.

I suppose we might be collectively assuming Primo look, only quite a deal faster.

So, while this post doesn't add much, other than cross-thread-quoting David I'd love to get some frikken' samples already!!!

 

[D Fuller]

Studying the product photo, I'm not sure how I feel about the choice of Courier typeface on something so expensive and optically elegant. I'm trying to imagine a Ferrari with courier typeface stylings.

I don't know what you're looking at, but look again. The type on the lens is not Courier. It's also not Courier New. It doesn't look anything like Courier. (For the record, i have 3939 fonts on my MBP, and it is not one of them. I expect that it is a custom Leica font.)

EDIT: I wrote this before seeing Marks post above. Sorry for chiming in on the silly font discussion.

 

[16x9 Inc]

Compact

Compact

They look so small mounted.

That's what I said while mounting it on the camera. They're also super light weight.

Pix of our RED set-up (Camera Courtesy of our friend Chad Wilson from Progressive Productions):