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LDS "Lens Data System" in the 5K Epic X

Humberto Rivera

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I guess its time to revisit the question whether Arri has or will license the LDS "Lens Data System" to Red (or have they already, we don’t know about it). I would say that confronted with; Do I use the Arri Prime Master Lens or not, with or without the LDS "Lens Data System" installed in the Epic X, the answer is just simply “Yes”.

Meaning that I will always choose the Red 5K Epic X over any other Camera, and I’m sure I’m not the only one that feels that way. The Arri Master Prime Lenses for the moment are the only ones capable of such a fine picture, but the Leica Summilux-C Lenses are not far on the horizon. Given their cost, and now with 3D becoming more of a reality, it’s not a decision easily made. So I would suggest to Arri that they get together with Red and licenses the LDS, unless they already have, and have not publicly announced it.

When they start to actually to deliver the Leica Summilux-C Lenses, after Otto Nemenz gets his 25 sets, the Leica will begin with a range from 16mm to 100mm, with a promise that they will eventually go from 12mm to over 150mm. The resolution will far exceed the resolving power of the Epic X. The only difference will be, Arri will have LDS "Lens Data System". The Leica Summilux-C Lenses will be far lighter. So do we choose to use the lighter Leica Summilux-C Lenses VS. the heavier Arri with LDS, a question for the very near future considering the move toward 3D.

Pictures now being planned, have to consider 3D, it’s just a reality, because they will be distributed in 2012, and 2013 and beyond. The Epic/Atom Rig has many advantages beyond anything else that exists, the Leica Summilux-C Lenses light-weight will certainly look very attractive.

In how many photos have we seen Ted running around a show with an Epic that has a Leica Summilux-C Lens attached? I must admit, that is always better for a script supervisor to get whatever assistance she/he needs, better for the visual effects people, better all the way around, but you have play the hand you were dealt. Just food for thought.

Humberto Rivera
 
That time of year where interoperability and standards are very usefull when shopping!
Any news on lens data or camera position formats?


Mike Brennan
 
Quote from Jarred Land: “We still have plans on supporting the LDS protocol with a new mount, but it won’t be until after the Canon and Nikon mounts and firmware are complete.”

That’s the first time I have personally seen an official word on the Arri LDS "Lens Data System" for the 5K Epic X addressed. So eventually we’ll have the best Camera (Red Epic X 5K Camera), with the best 3D System (Element Technica Atom Rig), the sharpest Lenses (Arri Master Primes), and now the LDS "Lens Data System" working in concert with each other. In addition to HDRx™™, and 96 Fps and “God Only Knows” what surprise waits at “NAB 2011”. Thank You!

Humberto Rivera
 
Dennis,
Yes, most of the modern Arri cameras have both sets of pins...
Cheers,
Harry
 
Ketch, forgive if I’m wrong, but as far as I know, the Red Epic 5K X is 96 Fps at “Full Frame” (5120 X 2700) and 2:1 (5120 x 2560) modes. Its goes up to 120 Fps at the 2.40:1 (5120 X 2134) mode. I am I wrong?

Humberto Rivera
 
The license obviously, since Sony will have both on the F-3.
 
Quote from Jarred Land: “We still have plans on supporting the LDS protocol with a new mount, but it won’t be until after the Canon and Nikon mounts and firmware are complete.”

sweet!

Dennis,
Yes, most of the modern Arri cameras have both sets of pins...
Cheers,
Harry

and now Epic!
awesome!

...
and “God Only Knows” what surprise waits at “NAB 2011”.

Jim knows... and Jarred, and a few others :)
what are you saying?
:D
 
Ketch, forgive if I’m wrong, but as far as I know, the Red Epic 5K X is 96 Fps at “Full Frame” (5120 X 2700) and 2:1 (5120 x 2560) modes. Its goes up to 120 Fps at the 2.40:1 (5120 X 2134) mode. I am I wrong?

Humberto Rivera

Correct Humberto, what I meant is that it does shoot 5k @120fps, but yeah it does os in the 2:1 mode.
 
I have a set of arri Ultra primes LDS
but they don't work with my epic dragon
Because the pins don't match
The pins in the lenses are in one side
And the pins in the camera are in the top
Any light on this?
 
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