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Laptop Editing setup. External SSD raid enclosure vs single SSD

Sterling Williams

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Current Setup:

Dell XPS 9570 15"
i7 8750 (6 core)
16 gb RAM
GTX 1050ti
512 gb NVME m.2


Editing Scarlet W 5k R3D in Davinci Resolve.

I was initially editing on external hard drives and getting very choppy playback. When monitoring, I saw that at full and half res the processor load would go up to 100%. Whereas at 1/4 res the processor load stayed at 20%. However, at 20% processor load I was still getting choppy playback, so I figured it must be the external drive speed. I picked up a couple of 860 EVO 1TB SSDs and tried editing off of the SSD, and I now get perfectly smooth playback at 1/4 res (still choppy at half and full).

My question is: Will there be any benefit to running the two SSDs in Raid 0, or would I be better off just getting one 2TB?

Also, do you have any other suggestions on improving performance on a laptop?
 
Current Setup:

Dell XPS 9570 15"
i7 8750 (6 core)
16 gb RAM
GTX 1050ti
512 gb NVME m.2


Editing Scarlet W 5k R3D in Davinci Resolve.

I was initially editing on external hard drives and getting very choppy playback. When monitoring, I saw that at full and half res the processor load would go up to 100%. Whereas at 1/4 res the processor load stayed at 20%. However, at 20% processor load I was still getting choppy playback, so I figured it must be the external drive speed. I picked up a couple of 860 EVO 1TB SSDs and tried editing off of the SSD, and I now get perfectly smooth playback at 1/4 res (still choppy at half and full).

My question is: Will there be any benefit to running the two SSDs in Raid 0, or would I be better off just getting one 2TB?

Also, do you have any other suggestions on improving performance on a laptop?

Your CPU seems fast enough to de-crypt-code-compress 5k FF .R3D
The max RAW data is 5120 x 2700 x 16bit x 50 fps ~ 1.3 GB/s from the CPU to the GPU (your 1050ti has 8 PCIe-3 lanes ~ 7.9 GB/s).

after de-bayering in resolve(32 bits) this becomes a lot more, 5120 x 2700 x 32bits x 3 colors x 50 fps ~ 7.73 GB/s (your 1050ti's bandwidth is still enough but an external GPU over TB3 will be bottle necked.)

At 24 fps this will be 5120 x 2700 x 32 bits x 3 colors x 24 fps ~ 3.71 GB/s (fit's both the 1050ti and an external GPU's bandwidth).

The de-bayered signal comes from the GPU and goes to the CPU for futher processing.

When you use a lot of uncompressed DPX see the data rates at http://phfx.com/tools/framesToDataRate/framesToDataRate.cgi?resX=&resY=&resolution=&REDresolution=5K-FF-5120x2700&REDresolutionB=&REDCODERAWCR=4&fps=&hours=&minutes=&intermediateCodec=none.

With normal optimized media like DNxHR and/or Cineform you won't go over the bandwidth limit of a normal SATA SSD.

SSDs in raid 0 can bring some improvement in specific scenario's (uncompressed DPX, etc..)

Buy an eGPU box and a faster NVidia GPU to do the de-bayering and other effects.

Puget did some testing with various GPU's in Davinci Resolve https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/DaVinci-Resolve-15-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Performance-1264/
 
Thank you for the response Misha. Very helpful as usual.

My follow up questions.

1. Since there are sales right now on 1TB and 2TB 860 EVOs, should I get one 2TB or two 1TB?

2. If I am still within the bandwidth capabilities of my internal GPU, what is the reason for getting an external?
 
Thank you for the response Misha. Very helpful as usual.

My follow up questions.

1. Since there are sales right now on 1TB and 2TB 860 EVOs, should I get one 2TB or two 1TB?

2. If I am still within the bandwidth capabilities of my internal GPU, what is the reason for getting an external?

1. Both can handle around 480 MB/s seq. R/W. raid 0 will double the speed, but you'll need a box that can handle raid 0 over USB 3.1 gen 2.

2. The bandwidth is okay, the processing speed of the GPU 1050ti is only around 2 TFlops (fp32) and let's say a 1080ti is around 11 Tflops (fp32).
 
1. Both can handle around 480 MB/s seq. R/W. raid 0 will double the speed, but you'll need a box that can handle raid 0 over USB 3.1 gen 2.

2. The bandwidth is okay, the processing speed of the GPU 1050ti is only around 2 TFlops (fp32) and let's say a 1080ti is around 11 Tflops (fp32).

Well since I will have to buy an external enclosure either way. Which would you do? Pros/Cons of single drive vs raid 0. This will simply be a project drive for on the go editing. Files are all backed up on other Hard Drives.
 
I would go for the raid enclosure with 2 SATA or 2 mSATA drives, you can never have to much speed (we have a raid 0 with 4 NVMe drives doing 7.5 GB/s R/W over 8 PCIe-3 lanes).

Just make sure that your laptop doesn't use the same port for TB3 and USB 3.1 gen 2, when they do just go for the 2 TB version with a USB 3.0 (480 MB/s) enclosure.

An eGPU will bring you more speed than a raid 0.
 
I would go for the raid enclosure with 2 SATA or 2 mSATA drives, you can never have to much speed (we have a raid 0 with 4 NVMe drives doing 7.5 GB/s R/W over 8 PCIe-3 lanes).

Just make sure that your laptop doesn't use the same port for TB3 and USB 3.1 gen 2, when they do just go for the 2 TB version with a USB 3.0 (480 MB/s) enclosure.

An eGPU will bring you more speed than a raid 0.

This laptop does have only one port for TB3 and USB Type-C 3.1 gen 2. It also has two USB 3.1 Gen 1 type A ports. Is the USB 3.1 Gen 1 type A port not fast enough for a raid 0?
 
This laptop does have only one port for TB3 and USB Type-C 3.1 gen 2. It also has two USB 3.1 Gen 1 type A ports. Is the USB 3.1 Gen 1 type A port not fast enough for a raid 0?

1 good SATA SSD(evo 860 2 TB) can saturate a USB3.1 gen 1 port. Save the combined TB3/Type-C for an external GPU.
 
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