LA VFX Artists Or VFX Company Needed For Sci Fi Action Short URGENT!

[Thomas Ikimi]

You shouldn't be surprised... especially if you've done any kind of filmwork. People like to forget where they got their starts - with the menial underpaid jobs that come in the no-lo budget fare that they wish they never did. But, without it, they'd never have gotten where they are. These are the types of projects that challenge. Sometimes they're fun, but usually people take them to get their starts.

Everyone complains about them because they THINK they're not getting what they BELIEVE they are worth. I know. I'm guilty of it too. I'll be lugging gear in the hundred degree summers, wondering what in the world possessed me to say "yes" to the gig - No matter that I'm getting more that the standard rate (even if it's only a few bucks per hour more).

Get used to it. It's going to happen. People bitch.

Especially when the money's tight.

What you say is correct, but that isn't even the bulk of the criticism. Most of the posts are about real names or saying others won't take the job when many already have. Why I am surprised and find this interesting is that why would someone take the time to post about how someone else won't do a job based on how they personally see an offer. Simply ignore the offer and move on. The name thing is even more baffling because it was resolved within two posts by myself and a moderator. As such I have a thread filled with all this vitriol but almost no discussion on the actual point of the thread. To finish a film project.

I already sorted this out so I am going to be closing this offer down anyway. However I have found it a very unusual reaction from posters. Again thanks to all those the PM'ed. It was a great response and it helped me make a decision.

 

[paulherrin]

post production artists like myself don't have any kind of union representation and are often treated unfairly, or disrespectfully. the problem is that some have to take the jobs to take care of their families and watch their bottom line. tight budgets and tight deadlines are not things that make me happy to see, i'm sorry. it's easy to sit on the other side and expect people to drop their hats for you, but it would be nice if this happened a lot less. it's just one of my pet peeves when people seem to have unrealistic expectations, and especially fellow artists. i don't have as much issue with the budget as i do the time expectations.

by posting here, and bumping the thread wondering why you hadn't any responses started what I would call kind responses from the community giving you advice. not sure what's wrong with that.

maybe your shots are all kindergarten effects, but no matter what size team you have, 27 shots in 4 weeks is a lot. that's all i was saying, and will continue to say. a lot of people have it figured out, but a lot of people don't, and it's important for those people to understand post-process workflows and time-management for a project with respect to the artists and their personal lives which will suffer on deadlines like this. if you're offended by that, i don't know what else to say.

as far as the real names thing, there are rules about that, but i think those guys were just looking out for you, in their own way. lots of people have been straight up banned for not following those rules, whether or not they were grandfathered in.

sorry you got a bad taste in your mouth, and i'm sorry i offended you, or if i've misjudged you. just communicating something that's been bothering me that might be worth some attention. we can all watch our attitudes in our communication, including myself. hopefully someone will have learned something from our discussion.

glad to hear you made some progress. good luck finishing the film.