Knowing Film Out

[Christian Munoz D]

I saw a film out version of the trailer at Cinemark and was a bit disappointed. It looked horrible, soft, grainy and bleached. It looks like it was shot on HDV or something similar. Other trailers looked excellent.
Somebody else has similar experience or the problem is just with that specific copy?

 

[Dan Hudgins]

Lut?

Lut?

I have not seen the trailer, but would like to caution RED ONE users from going into heavy LUT to get a "bad lab film look" on their grading monitor. Once you make a filmout the prints will get a "film look" because they will be on film, and probably get enough "bad film lab look" without needing to add a LUT from some faded print reference.

I have been doing some direct to printstock filmout tests with my DANCINEL.EXE (tm) program, and the RED ONE images are transformed just by going onto color print stock, no LUT can match what film will look like on a monitor at the extremes of the color range, except maybe if you have an OLED monitor and some kind of odd LUT to view with.

 

[Seth Larney]

I saw a film out version of the trailer at Cinemark and was a bit disappointed. It looked horrible, soft, grainy and bleached. It looks like it was shot on HDV or something similar. Other trailers looked excellent.
Somebody else has similar experience or the problem is just with that specific copy?

I hope this not the case for the final film. Especially because I know the original footage looks amazing.. so it would be a real shame if it gets lost in translation to the film print.. that would be a bad representation for RED.

 

[Christian Munoz D]

I hope this not the case for the final film. Especially because I know the original footage looks amazing.. so it would be a real shame if it gets lost in translation to the film print.. that would be a bad representation for RED.

I don't think this will be the case with the feature.

Will be interesting to know if Ryan Kunkleman or Chris Swinbanks can give us more info about this issue.

 

[Darren Orange]

Has anyone saw "My Bloody Valentine" Trailer in theaters yet? That was mostly all shot on RED ONE.

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

while I have no way of knowing (no pun intended) if this is the case - sometimes films edit longer than the schedule (go figure) - and trailers are shot out to film from "non-mastered" material just to get them into theatres on time - sometimes preliminary trailers are shot out from HD edit media and then replaced by mastered trailers.

I sincerely hope that whoever does a film record out of KNOWING nails it.

 

[Seth Larney]

while I have no way of knowing (no pun intended) if this is the case - sometimes films edit longer than the schedule (go figure) - and trailers are shot out to film from "non-mastered" material just to get them into theatres on time - sometimes preliminary trailers are shot out from HD edit media and then replaced by mastered trailers.

I sincerely hope that whoever does a film record out of KNOWING nails it.

all true, in fact I have heard of people finishing high end trailers from DNXHD

Trailers are also very often finished with temp VFX (obviously as VFX can run almost up to the release of the film)