Just saw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

[Michael Pyon]

Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!

 

[Kiel Milligan]

yes, anytime these boards become flooded with some people criticizing the MX sensor for this reason or that, i just go back and watch that trailer and all is good in the world. Cant wait to get that camera in my hands!

 

[Noah Yuan-Vogel]

Yeah cant wait to have an estimated budget of $100M to put in front of any camera...

 

[Benoît-Joan Clariana-Roig]

Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!

Yeah and I'll make Bilbo the Hobbit in my backyard.

 

[Brian Iannone]

Yeah cant wait to have an estimated budget of $100M to put in front of any camera...

Yeah and I'll make Bilbo the Hobbit in my backyard.

+1

LOL. I wanted to post a similar reply when I first read this thread, but I didn't. Thank you for bringing a realistic view in here. =)

 

[Matthew Scott]

"Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!"

Me too!

"LOL. I wanted to post a similar reply when I first read this thread, but I didn't. Thank you for bringing a realistic view in here. =) "

It's not always about budget....I've created beautiful imagery with zero dollars before, haven't you? I'm not attacking you, just not sure I like the way you extinguished Michael's enthusiasm with your post. Or did I read that wrong?

 

[Mitch Fillion]

Also saw it last night, looked fantastic. Great movie too!

 

[Dale Saxton]

+1 Matthew Scott.

never tell anyone they can't achieve something!

 

[James McLellan]

I am currently working on a feature length production of "Time Ninjas of Pirate Island" once Epic gets here the last piece will have fallen into place. The entire thing takes place on my driveway. It's very big. I'm exited.

 

[Arnold F.]

If you have a way to create this type of cinematography without the considerable support system present on a major production then I'm envious. Would the shots have been exactly the same without he money to obtain locations, gaffer, PA's, time, etc?

Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!

 

[Steve Das]

Yeah and I'll make Bilbo the Hobbit in my backyard.

Too Late..Somebody already did it..it's called The Hunt for Gollum and it was filmed on lowly HDV for £3,000 or $4,700

http://thehuntforgollum.com/faq.html
http://www.thehuntforgollum.com/updates.htm
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1323925/

Sorry guys..but think you are all just so far offline with these remarks...just watch The Gollum movie..
There is no magic money machine that studios own that turns out movies. They are all the byproduct of people.
Any film is done by someone just saying you stand there..camera goes there..this is too dark..this is too light..etc..etc..etc..
Exact same process..no matter if the budget is $1,000 or $100,000,000

Yeah cant wait to have an estimated budget of $100M to put in front of any camera...

+1 LOL. I wanted to post a similar reply when I first read this thread, but I didn't. Thank you for bringing a realistic view in here. =)

I am currently working on a feature length production of "Time Ninjas of Pirate Island" once Epic gets here the last piece will have fallen into place. The entire thing takes place on my driveway. It's very big. I'm exited.

If you have a way to create this type of cinematography without the considerable support system present on a major production then I'm envious. Would the shots have been exactly the same without he money to obtain locations, gaffer, PA's, time, etc?

Stephen Soderburgh is really the only single director that has taken the possibilities for cheaper digital production really run with it.
He must have made like 6 films which is remarkable in itself. But in interviews he has expressed frustration that the films have struggled
to get releases and distribution and audiences.

It's hard to get people to sit still for a 2 hour movie in the age of Twitter..Facebook..Google. Let alone the 2 Che films.
Even films that are made for under 100,000 and are sold to cable tv have a very hard time breaking even..
so I would never fault people who don't try to do
do feature production with a Scarlet..but come on let's not discourage people from even trying. It can be done.

 

[BrandonChristensen]

Posting the exception to the rule is never going to prove your point.

 

[Arnold F.]

"There is no magic money machine that studios own that turns out movies."

You both deny and confirm the existence of movie studios in the same sentence. It is EXACTLY their money that makes movies with EXACTLY those high production values. If they have a good gaffer with $500,000 worth of grip and lighting, to chose just one of the many things that go into production values, it's not because they have no money.

I support original points of view and the assertion, if I understand you correctly, that there is no correlation between money and production value is one of the most original (although the folks who say the earth is flat are working your side of the street). Even if I hadn't worked at several major studios and seen that relationship first hand, I still don't think I'd agree with you.

That said, I'll certainly agree that you neither MUST have lots of money to get some good shots, nor that having money guarantees it. If lots of money meant taste or quality Donald Trump and most rappers would be very different.

Is there really disagreement that there is a relationship between money and production value? Is that really the topic?

 

[Brian Iannone]

It's not always about budget....I've created beautiful imagery with zero dollars before, haven't you? I'm not attacking you, just not sure I like the way you extinguished Michael's enthusiasm with your post. Or did I read that wrong?

If Michael had written something like, "I can't wait to start shooting some amazing footage with my Scarlet!" I wouldn't have noticed anything strange or unrealistic about his post.

But, that's not what he said. He wrote, "Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!" Perhaps I'm just being picky about his grammar, but to me, it sounds like he wants to recreate shots he's seen in the film. Which, of course, is totally unrealistic.

I apologize if I'm reading this wrong, but I understand things as I see them. And from the viewpoint of standard English grammar, his post sounds a little strange.

I admit that Scarlet and EPIC are both devices capable of creating truly magical images. But, wanting to recreate shots from a film with a $100M budget is a little ridiculous.

I'm not saying you can't create an awesome film that's better than GWDT with an even smaller budget. What I am saying though is don't try to recreate scenes from an existing film and expect to get identical results.

Along the lines of extinguishing enthusiasm... If you know what Scarlet can offer, and are looking at it from a realistic viewpoint, there's no need to lose enthusiasm. That camera really is a magical device.

Just my opinion here...

 

[Steve Das]

Posting the exception to the rule is never going to prove your point.

All good films are exactly that..HUGE exceptions to the rule.
Exceptional people + exceptional ideas = exceptional films...no way around that.
Cameras and budgets are another issue but they are not a "make or break thing" like people seem to think.

Sundance 2011...3,812 feature films were submitted, 1,943 from the US and 1,869 internationally. From these, 118 feature films were selected with 25 in competition. And of the 25 in competition probably less than 5 ever saw the inside of a movie theatre.
see wikipedia for sundance 2011.

 

[Matthew Scott]

If Michael had written something like, "I can't wait to start shooting some amazing footage with my Scarlet!" I wouldn't have noticed anything strange or unrealistic about his post.

But, that's not what he said. He wrote, "Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!" Perhaps I'm just being picky about his grammar, but to me, it sounds like he wants to recreate shots he's seen in the film. Which, of course, is totally unrealistic.

I apologize if I'm reading this wrong, but I understand things as I see them. And from the viewpoint of standard English grammar, his post sounds a little strange.

I admit that Scarlet and EPIC are both devices capable of creating truly magical images. But, wanting to recreate shots from a film with a $100M budget is a little ridiculous.

I'm not saying you can't create an awesome film that's better than GWDT with an even smaller budget. What I am saying though is don't try to recreate scenes from an existing film and expect to get identical results.

Along the lines of extinguishing enthusiasm... If you know what Scarlet can offer, and are looking at it from a realistic viewpoint, there's no need to lose enthusiasm. That camera really is a magical device.

Just my opinion here...

Are you for real? It was the grammar that made you do it? Sheesh!! You gotta be so careful round here.....

 

[Brian Iannone]

Are you for real? It was the grammar that made you do it? Sheesh!! You gotta be so careful round here.....

Okay, I suppose I am being too picky.


@ Michael Pyon
I apologize for writing what I did. It was not my intention to extinguish your enthusiasm. I'm sorry about being so picky.


@ Matthew Scott
Thank you for helping me to realize that I was indeed being too picky. I personally care a lot about grammar. But, I read into someone else's post more than I should have. I hope you don't think I'm a mean person now.

 

[Steve Das]

If Michael had written something like, "I can't wait to start shooting some amazing footage with my Scarlet!" I wouldn't have noticed anything strange or unrealistic about his post.

But, that's not what he said. He wrote, "Can't wait to recreate those beautiful shots with my scarlet!!!" Perhaps I'm just being picky about his grammar, but to me, it sounds like he wants to recreate shots he's seen in the film. Which, of course, is totally unrealistic....

Brian..am not sure what you mean ?..Why would it be unrealistic to recreate shots from the film..?
Copying old masters and analysis of their work has a long tradition in art. Basically it's how you learn
and improve your skills.

Matter of fact it's fairly common exercise in film schools to re-interpret scenes with actors or recreate photographic
looks from movies. Heard of one where someone shot people in Koreatown and Chinatown and then superimposed
over that a bunch of modern architecture and fluorescent and neon lights on a rainy and foggy night and wound
up with quite a convincing blade runner look.

 

[Brian Iannone]

Brian..am not sure what you mean ?..Why would it be unrealistic to recreate shots from the film..?
Copying old masters and analysis of their work has a long tradition in art. Basically it's how you learn
and improve your skills.

Matter of fact it's fairly common exercise in film schools to re-interpret scenes with actors or recreate photographic
looks from movies. Heard of one where someone shot people in Koreatown and Chinatown and then superimposed
over that a bunch of modern architecture and fluorescent and neon lights on a rainy and foggy night and wound
up with quite a convincing blade runner look.

I was unaware of that. (I've never been to film school.)

However, now that you point that out, I'm honestly finding it fascinating. Of course, I still don't think that's what Michael was referring to in his first post...

Copying specific scenes from films does actually sound like a pretty good idea for personal education now. Thanks for informing me of that! =)

 

[Matthew Scott]

Okay, I suppose I am being too picky.


@ Michael Pyon
I apologize for writing what I did. It was not my intention to extinguish your enthusiasm. I'm sorry about being so picky.


@ Matthew Scott
Thank you for helping me to realize that I was indeed being too picky. I personally care a lot about grammar. But, I read into someone else's post more than I should have. I hope you don't think I'm a mean person now.

All good man, I knew you weren't mean hehe...I've read plenty of other posts from you which prove that