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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Just saw Oldboy

Japanese? I thought it was a korean film.
If you like oldboy u should check his other film Sympathy for Mr Vengeance.
 
Amazing movie. Yes, the fight scene with the hammer is one of the most impressively staged sequences I think I've ever seen on film.

It's a spectacular, and very disturbing, movie. Two thumbs way up!
 
4 or 5 years since I saw it, but I remember that hammer sequence!
 
Great film, something I think everyone interested in world cinema or asian cinema in particular should make a point to see. And the tracking shot with the hammer fight scene is incredible. I have seen stories that Will Smith and Spielberg want to do a english language re-imaging of this film, personally I hope this never happens.

Here is the story: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2008/nov/07/spielberg-smith-oldboy-remake
 
saw it at the cinema a few years ago.

what struck me the most actually was the strickingly good storytelling and how "american" the story in general felt. (except maybe for the "tongue" scene in the very end). but then i'm not an expert...
 
Not one to name drop but couldn't resist this one. I just had soju with the Old Boy DP Jung last week. Really nice guy. He just finished shooting a vampire movie with the Park Chan Woo. He is color correcting it right now. His next project is with the director who made "The King and the Clown." Funny thing is he kind of looks like a younger version of Old Boy...
 
Awesome!
An asian vampire movie is something I've been wanting to do myself.
Can't think of a better person than Chan Wook Park to bring an idea like that to
the big screen
 
Oldboy is fascinating as a case-study of contemporary cinema. Love the movie or abhor it, the material has a life and pulse inconceivable today in any financed American production. Despite the commercial appeal of violence, the taboos violated are simply too much for American venture capitalists. They wouldn't touch it -- or comprehend it. And taboo may well be the last frontier. Everything else is a remake or a sequel.

Anyone who doubts that funding is fate in cinema, or that films ultimately express the personalities of film-funders (this is "auteur theory", revised for the 21st century), need only look at Oldboy, and then try to sit through the Sundance Dramatic Competition. Or a recent Tarantino film. And weep.

BTW, Spielberg & Co. claim their upcoming version is more closely related to the original Japanese manga, and is not a remake of Park's film. But still, you have to wonder. If the Hollywood types took some of their personal billions and financed a few genuine indies every year (indies, that is, completely at odds with their own interests), they might not have to look to Korean films or Japanese manga for ideas. With any luck, they might be able to steal American.
 
Isaac Brody said:
That tracking fight shot with the hammer is brilliant.
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Funny thing is that it's like so many great things a consequence of time or money and therefor a compromise.

They were behind and couldn't afford to do it in more then one take.
 
C.H.Haskell said:
YES, sorry...my apologies, it the original is Korean.
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Well, it's based on a Japanese Manga that was published by Dark Horse overseas...so it's kind of originally Japanese, although besides the general plot outline there isn't that much in common.

I remember discovering Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance back when I just bought Tartan Asia Extreme DVD's on a whim to try something new every weekend. Boy, was it an eye opener. Then watched Oldboy when it came out, I was stunned beyond words. Bought the soundtrack and everything.

Then came Lady Vengeance and I don't know what happened.
Does anybody else here occasionaly wonder if they've just watched the same movie as everyone else did? A few close film buddies and I were appalled by it, yet everywhere I turn people seem to love it.

I guess it's just a case of different strokes for different folks.

Since I got burnt by that I haven't gotten around to watching "Im a cyborg" although it sounds wonderfully quirky and a breath of fresh air from the Vengeance trilogy. I'll probably visit it after I watch Thirst, his new vampiric monk movie. Hell, I have Joint Security Area sitting on my shelf right next to me, unwatched. Maybe now's a good time...
 
J Davis said:
Awesome!
An asian vampire movie is something I've been wanting to do myself.
Can't think of a better person than Chan Wook Park to bring an idea like that to
the big screen
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Getting even further off-topic but there is a wonderful old kung-fu // vampire film from the 70s I believe titled "Legend of The Seven Golden Vampires." Not art like Park's films are but above average quality campy fun IMO.

-noel
 
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Hell, I have Joint Security Area sitting on my shelf right next to me, unwatched. Maybe now's a good time...
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Go for it! Also a very fascinating movie!

for those who like the hammer scene in "old boy" - check the making of part of the dvd ;-)

regards,
martin
 
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