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Just give me 35mm DOF

35mm + Nikon mount support, and I'd be cashing up for it immediately.

All the extra pixels is what scares me away from Red, since you lose 35mm DOF (for wide Field of View) when recording in anything less than max resolution with it.
 
hybris said:
35mm + Nikon mount support, and I'd be cashing up for it immediately.

All the extra pixels is what scares me away from Red, since you lose 35mm DOF (for wide Field of View) when recording in anything less than max resolution with it.
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Me too. I'm tired of using a bazooka style of camera, only to get that 35mm dof. It's time the 35mm adapter (redrock, sgpro, brevis, letus,...) saga comes to an end!
 
35mm DOF would make scarlet stand out amongst all other cams which usually require another $3000 for an adaptor.
 
killfilm said:
35mm DOF would make scarlet stand out amongst all other cams which usually require another $3000 for an adaptor.
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$3000 for an adaptor? Most of them cost about half that. I get your point though. 2K, RAW, and 35mm DoF in a small package would set apart Scarlet from any of its competitors. Let's hope that's the plan for Scarlet.
 
Boz said:
$3000 for an adaptor? Most of them cost about half that. I get your point though. 2K, RAW, and 35mm DoF in a small package would set apart Scarlet from any of its competitors. Let's hope that's the plan for Scarlet.
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I'd be willing to bet one quadrillion dollars it's not based on what's been said by RED about it already. Like, it won't compete with RED. You put 35mm DOF on Scarlet and it competes with RED.
 
joelnet said:
I'd be willing to bet one quadrillion dollars it's not based on what's been said by RED about it already. Like, it won't compete with RED. You put 35mm DOF on Scarlet and it competes with RED.
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not really, Red is still 4k and with the option of cinelenses, different mount

would you give up such a huge market by withholding nice options such as 35mm dof?
 
The inmates are running the asylum...

Jim
 
If Scarlet were 4:4:4 1080p with a real lens mount for a 35mm sensor (or even s-16) at $4k-7k, I'd ditch my Andromeda DVX in a heartbeat after selling a kidney for the couple thousand I'm short.
 
Hi all,

I'm new here. I don't own a Red One yet, but I hope I can soon. Anyway I'm really interested in the Scarlet as well because if it gives me what I need, then the Red One can wait a little longer.

I haven't posted in other "I want the Scarlet to be this or that..." threads because if I have to tell you, I find them quite unrealistic. People read "pocket cam from Red" and they automatically think it will be a mini-Red One with almost everything its bigger sister has to offer but half the size and 1/8 of the price.

This is actually the first thread asking for something that can be true. Just think about it and please, keep it simple and don't start asking for impossible things. I really think Jim will try to offer what noone has ever offered before (even Red itself). What would you think if Jim offers this?:

- A very simple cam about the size of a HV20
- Fixed 16x zoom
- Manual controls
- 2k (I guess there's no point in denying this will be the resolution, given the fact that www.scarlet2k.com is already registered)
- 35mm sized sensor
- $2000 - $4000

Just think about it. There's no other cam in the world offering that. It's the most basic cam setup for real filmmaking and it would be the first digital handycam to offer 35mm DOF. That alone makes it unique and it doesn't compete with the Red One at all because the Red One offers so much more.

Just imagine the latitude and light response of a 35mm sized 2K sensor...
 
killfilm said:
not really, Red is still 4k and with the option of cinelenses, different mount

would you give up such a huge market by withholding nice options such as 35mm dof?
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My guess is they needed a 4K sensor to make a 35mm native DOF camera. 4K was never necessary to make sales of RED IMHO. No one ever asked for 4K. Everyone asked for 35mm DOF, great latitude at 1080P. The Viper is 1080P. People would have been fine with that.

What we got was what RED is NOW.

Certainly RED at $5K would sell many more cameras... why would they give up on such a huge market? 'Cause they can't do it.

My guess is Scarlet will mimic 16mm... 2K, and probably with a fixed zoom lens with full manual control. That would be a bitchin' camera - and probably would sell like hotcakes. Great for documentaries, travel, extreme sport videos.

I'm also going to guess you won't see Scarlet for at least 6 months, but possibly 12 given the growing pains with RED ONE we've seen.
 
Jannard said:
The inmates are running the asylum...

Jim
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Easily fixed. You don't even have to tell us what Scarlet specs are... just what they aren't. You know, like 'Scarlet will not: be larger than 8" long, be 4K, or have removable lenses.' This would help get expectations more in line and reduce the amount of potential disappointment when Scarlet's specs don't match the fantasy specs often posted here. Meanwhile, the rampant (and unrealistic) speculation will continue. :)
 
Jannard said:
The inmates are running the asylum...

Jim
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only because I have absolutely nothing else to hang my hat on, i'm going to go ahead and consider this a hint that you are likely to provide something that the inmates are asking for -- that you are listening to what we want to drop our money on and letting that determine what you plan to deliver in Scarlet. yes, no? ugh, one more month....
 
Ooze3d said:
What would you think if Jim offers this?:

- A very simple cam about the size of a HV20
- Fixed 16x zoom
- Manual controls
- 2k (I guess there's no point in denying this will be the resolution, given the fact that www.scarlet2k.com is already registered)
- 35mm sized sensor
- $2000 - $4000
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I would buy that in a heart beat. I'm not a big on the size thing - I like my cameras a bit bigger, but for cinematography purposes I can def. see the advantages of a smaller cam, it's just a big one feels so much more "pro."

But yeah, I'd totally buy that, provided the aperture could get open enough at portrait focal lengths.
 
Ooze3d said:
- 2k (I guess there's no point in denying this will be the resolution, given the fact that www.scarlet2k.com is already registered)
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Though Scarlet may very well be 2K, this is by no means certain. Someone on another forum declared that the "Scarlet 2K" trademark application proved Scarlet's 2K resolution, to which Jim Jannard responded, "Good find... but remember, things 'can change at any time'. And often do."
 
I never claimed the trademark application proved anything, only that it was "...at least some pretty strong evidence as to the resolution of the camera, or at least what the resolution was early on in the development process"

Here's the thread:
http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?p=806335#post806335

In fact, the original post (and USTPO find) was by Reduser "watergate" on this thread:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?p=132870#post132870

I thought then, and I still think now, that those trademark applications are the only solid evidence we have as to what Scarlet might be. I really think the speculation has run its course at this point. I know I've grown tired of it, and I was as excited as anyone about Scarlet.
 
Ooze3d said:
Hi all,

I'm new here. I don't own a Red One yet, but I hope I can soon. Anyway I'm really interested in the Scarlet as well because if it gives me what I need, then the Red One can wait a little longer.

I haven't posted in other "I want the Scarlet to be this or that..." threads because if I have to tell you, I find them quite unrealistic. People read "pocket cam from Red" and they automatically think it will be a mini-Red One with almost everything its bigger sister has to offer but half the size and 1/8 of the price.

This is actually the first thread asking for something that can be true. Just think about it and please, keep it simple and don't start asking for impossible things. I really think Jim will try to offer what noone has ever offered before (even Red itself). What would you think if Jim offers this?:

- A very simple cam about the size of a HV20
- Fixed 16x zoom
- Manual controls
- 2k (I guess there's no point in denying this will be the resolution, given the fact that www.scarlet2k.com is already registered)
- 35mm sized sensor
- $2000 - $4000

Just think about it. There's no other cam in the world offering that. It's the most basic cam setup for real filmmaking and it would be the first digital handycam to offer 35mm DOF. That alone makes it unique and it doesn't compete with the Red One at all because the Red One offers so much more.

Just imagine the latitude and light response of a 35mm sized 2K sensor...
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hmmm fair enough, sounds like a cam i would buy too. Just wondering though, when dealing with the clients who think bigger is better, what do you tell them about the small "handycam" looking thing. I think that size also matters most of the time when dealing with a professional crew.
 
Ooze3d said:
Hi all,

- A very simple cam about the size of a HV20
- Fixed 16x zoom
- Manual controls
- 2k (I guess there's no point in denying this will be the resolution, given the fact that www.scarlet2k.com is already registered)
- 35mm sized sensor
- $2000 - $4000
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Nice list, but replace the fixed 16x zoom by a Nikon Mount and this is the ultimate cam for me. Shoot whith primes when I need is an important point.
 
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