Jumper, shot on red or not?

[Andrew Walker]

closer to a dozen - I need to count again -

there are shots that include - int. surf shop, ext. ocean, ext. london street, ext. bridge, int. apt.

I didn't realize those shots got used. I was told by someone that worked with the post-super that the shots I described were the ones they used. But he could be wrong.

 

[Mark L. Pederson]

I didn't realize those shots got used. I was told by someone that worked with the post-super that the shots I described were the ones they used. But he could be wrong.

There were entire scenes that were shot that were not used - but I was there for all the Red shoots (they were done with our cameras) - and I looked at all the footage in Scratch - and I have a copy of the film on DVD - and it's certainly more than the "on the surfboard shot." I'll bust out the DVD and break it down if I have time on Friday before heading to Vegas. But you know ... the telling tale here is ... nobody can tell what's Red and what's 35mm -

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Film grain is not a dead give away because many houses are adding grain to RED footage. Especially when inter-cut with 35mm.

Take your family to see Knowing. 100% Red. No questions.

Lastly as to the comments before, when mixing formats the final is usually decided by the lowest common visual denominators. So, everything gets their various abilities dumbed down or characteristics added till everyone looks the same.

Lower sharpness, add grain is a common combo.

Yes unfortunately, I suppose even if most of it is shot on Red someone might still decide to add grain rather than de-noise any film footage.

Everything I have seen (very little) seems to be different from film. I also noticed a few shots in the film that I ws suspect might be from Red. the surfboard scene sticks out. I saw knowing and it was not my cup of tea, but I appreciate what was being achieved with the look.

Thanks for offering to do the list, it will be good to determine what is happening for certain. It is good you can still find the scenes from a DVD.

I want to say something about the added noise. I watched Babel on Blu-ray last week and the grain is everywhere and very heavy, outside and inside, I suspected it was added. I had to turn the de-noise function on my TV to maximum just to make it bearable to watch for me, and even then the noise was lots. I have noticed a fair bit of noise in the other title I had compared to what I remembered from the cinema. I am worried that noise is being added to disks, which destroys a lot of the reason for having them compared to DVD.

 

[Emmanuel Lariviere]

Whereas movies like Che, G.I. Joe, Manure, S.Darko, etc we're now hearing about are 100% main unit on RED.

Noah[/QUOTE]

G.I Joe is mostly 35mm. It's being shot by Mitchell Amundsen, who also shot Wanted. The RED is being used for certain fx shots. The main unit is shooting with Panavision cameras and anamorphic lenses.

 

[Wayne Morellini]

Well at least I don't have to go and see it as a Red film, bit old for that sort of stuff .

 

[David Mullen ASC]

I want to say something about the added noise. I watched Babel on Blu-ray last week and the grain is everywhere and very heavy, outside and inside, I suspected it was added. I had to turn the de-noise function on my TV to maximum just to make it bearable to watch for me, and even then the noise was lots. I have noticed a fair bit of noise in the other title I had compared to what I remembered from the cinema. I am worried that noise is being added to disks, which destroys a lot of the reason for having them compared to DVD.

Some major sequences were shot in Super-16 and grain is a part of the visual style of that film -- so are you sure they added electronic noise to the picture, or are you just seeing the film grain clearly resolved?

I remember at the time the 2K D.I. was done, DP Rodrigo Prieto was a bit disappointed that the Spirit transfer used was blurring or blunting the grain of the Super-16 sequences, not making them stand out enough from the 35mm sequences. So maybe the Blu-Ray version is actually more in line with the intended look.

 

[Gavin Greenwalt]

I don't know that any grain was added.

I'd have to dig out my AC article on it but I'm pretty sure they did some tests shooting clean and adding grain in post but the Director wasn't satisfied. My understanding was that they ended up with the grain 'as shot'.

 

[RikiButland]

Here here, equaling HDs capability to intecut with film quality should be expected from RED. Also bear in mind that a colourist is paid good money to blend formats, often taking the res of the higher quality format down either side of a shot of lower quality.


I totally agree with Michael

 

[Stephen Williams]

Jumper, as well as Wanted, used the RED for 2nd Unit and VFX shots.
That's all.

Wait for Soderbergh's movies.

The difference is some scenes made the final cut in Jumper, where nothing shot on RED was used in Wantrd