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Jade Helm 15

Steve Sherrick

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Okay, I'm always down for a good conspiracy discussion. I know politics is not really allowed here, so I think we'll needto keep it tame in that regard. For those who have no idea what I'm talking about, here's a quick look
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Helm_15_conspiracy_theories

I know I can't make up stuff this good. I will say, if it is related to the asteroid hitting in September, I will agree that the government would probably prefer to avoid mass panic if it did have knowledge of one on course. How to keep all those astronomers around the globe quiet, well that seems like quite the challenge.

I think it's safe to say, we'll be screwed some day. Will we be alive to see it? Maybe. It's kind of like playing soccer on a mine field. Eventually you'll be scewed. Even if there's only one.

Anyway, what do you guys think?
 
It's a good time to rewatch "punishment park". This said.

Ill be be watching this closely as it could descend rather quickly. The Walmart closures for "plumbing issues" is the most interesting part.
 
David Battistella said:
It's a good time to rewatch "punishment park". This said.

Ill be be watching this closely as it could descend rather quickly. The Walmart closures for "plumbing issues" is the most interesting part.
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This just moved to the top of my list of films to watch. Thanks David!
 
Has anyone observed any of this operation? Anything jump out as beyond the norm? I suspect it's business as usual but maybe some of you are in those areas and have some interesting stories.
 
I've been seeing tons of large military convoys heading south on the 5 freeway coming from northern California. I'm talking hundreds of military vehicles at a time passing through the grapevine. Don't remember ever seeing anything so massive before but I was younger so probably thought it was cool back then.
 
I live about an hour south of Hill Air Force Base, basically smack dab inbetween that and the NSA center. I've noticed a huge amount of military air presence, which I've jokingly chalked up to martial law, but I assume they are preparing for this. If I were to affix my tin foil hat, the military could try to enforce martial law here in Utah, but the population is too scattered to impose it.

But an interesting conspiracy!
 
Punishment Park is a must watch. Watkins' ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Watkins ) other work, especially Culloden, and The War Game are classics. The BFI did an excellent DVD release of The War Game but it's long out of print and hard to get hold of. Privilege is interesting, as is Gladiators. I've got most of the rest of his work, but I can't say I've got around to watching them. Watkins is an interesting man. I had a bit of an email conversation with him after my mum and I watched The War Game together, with my mum's comments based on her experience as part of the civil defence and how The War Game illustrated how ludicrous the situation was.

Graeme
 
Punishment Park was as advertised. Wow. Thanks for the suggestion guys.

It's hard to imagine martial law in this country unless things got really out of hand but it's not a stretch to see things eventually getting out of hand. All of the ingredients are there for things to implode but an optimist might point out that that it isn't the first time in our country's short history that things have seemed out of control and it probably won't be the last.

In my opinion, the number one challenge for any president, governor, mayor, and every person on the planet really is mental health. If we don't figure out a way to address that we will continue to see more and more tragedies unfold before our eyes. Immigration, drugs, terrorism, economics, jobs, etc are all very important issues but I think ignoring mental health is a huge mistake.

But getting back to the Jade Helm topic, I'm not surprised by large scale military exercises. I'm sure it's the best way to train for the real thing. And it's not like they were very secretive about it. I'm sure Texas will still be a free state after September 15
 
Ex Minnesota Governor Ventura is an ex Navy seal. He felt there was never any reason for the military to do exercises in the public. He felt that the idea behind it was to familiarise people with the idea of a military presence, so that people would generally be more comfortable with having soldiers around. In terms of military exercises, there is plenty of room on military bases to conduct exercises, so doing them "out in public" is deliberate. It's the link to the wall mart closures that is strange to me.

Punishment park was really good viewing because basically everything you saw in that 1971 film became possible when the patriot act was enacted. Most americans probably think that is a movie, but it is actually a very important piece of legislation that that reinstituted some serious power to government and the CIA.

Back to Jade helm and Jesse Ventura. I still just remember him as a great wrestler/entertainer, but seems like a thoughtful guy.
 
As a multiple decades long avid conspiracy theorist this stuff crops up every year in some form. I agree the "hiding in plain sight" method of open military exercises is questionable but the larger issue is that if the government/military wanted to take over and enact marshall law etc... they could and it would be very difficult for the populace to overthrow or stop it.
Simply from the perspective of the air force and other 'non-ground' tactical opportunities they have besides freezing banks and credit which would very effectively hurt most civil actions.

But, we definitely need to be vigilant about what's going on so we can be ready for anything that 'might just happen' :) because if it does it's gonna go downhill really fast.
 
I have a feeling this is more about the military looking for things to do than anything else. Many of the troops were gone for years, that is why you are seeing increased activity and more convoys etc -- they are here for you to see now. Also the military has admitted being slow to adjust to the new type of battle and combatant, I think it is very reasonable that they would be drilling to combat invisible/embedded combatants. It's not sinister, it's the new battlefront.
 
Med D said:
I think it is very reasonable that they would be drilling to combat invisible/embedded combatants. It's not sinister, it's the new battlefront.
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Yeah, but then the question is why out in public and not on the gazillion bases in the US. I'm very used to armed police presence now since moving to Europe, was a bit of a shocker at first coming from Canada, but I see soldiers in the streets every day.


PS: this is way off topic for Reduser and normally anything political gets shut down, so if it can stay civilised maybe it can go on for a bit.
 
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