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ISO locked at 800 in RAW settings

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Nicolas Alvo

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Hi everyone,

For some reason, my ISO is locked at 800 when I choose to shoot RAW in the Red Epic. The camera won't even allow me to access the ISO menu.

If I decide to go in for a baked look, then the camera let's me adjust the gain.

Anyone know a simple solution to this? Do I need to update the software?

Thanks,

Nicolas
 
Nicolas Alvo said:
Hi everyone,

For some reason, my ISO is locked at 800 when I choose to shoot RAW in the Red Epic. The camera won't even allow me to access the ISO menu.

If I decide to go in for a baked look, then the camera let's me adjust the gain.

Anyone know a simple solution to this? Do I need to update the software?

Thanks,

Nicolas
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Can you show us a picture or video of the screen you're seeing?

I would guess you are viewing raw which doesn't allow you to tweak the ISO. that's just a quick monitoring tool that perhaps was left on?

EDIT: Also if you're on DSMC1 there is only one way to record: raw. So I would put my money on the fact that you're viewing in raw instead a typical DC/RG look. I would take a peek at the Ops Guide and familiarize yourself there.
 
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Yes, you have your view set to "RAW"

If you want to see the picture with different ISO tap on the histogram on the screen then tap on "RAW" to turn RAW view
 
You can't look at other ISOs in RAW view...that's they way that view works, even though it is not technically RAW since you can see an image. I think what you are looking it in RAW view is redlogfilm but I think maybe that will change in the full release of IPP2?
 
RAW view has a locked image. We're moving that feature over to "log view" which is more useful and responds to ISO.

FYI RAW view isn't really a raw view and gives no indication of "native" ISO. You can't really view RAW data - we tried on Frankie R&D camera and Jarred will recount the tales of fun trying to shoot like that! Not fun at all. So RAW view gave a fixed gain, fixed colour temp view in log.

The term "native" ISO comes from the DSLR days where the cameras used a combination of analogue and digital gain (burned into the RAW file) to adjust ISO. Because of this some ISOs had more and some had less dynamic range, and the "native" one was one with the most DR. On Red cameras ISO is non-clipping digital gain that just re-distributes sensor code values and hence in that sense they're all "native" as having the same identical DR. What we do instead is suggest a "starting point" ISO where we find the camera performs well in typical shooting conditions.

Graeme
 
Graeme Nattress said:
RAW view has a locked image. We're moving that feature over to "log view" which is more useful and responds to ISO.

FYI RAW view isn't really a raw view and gives no indication of "native" ISO. You can't really view RAW data - we tried on Frankie R&D camera and Jarred will recount the tales of fun trying to shoot like that! Not fun at all. So RAW view gave a fixed gain, fixed colour temp view in log.

The term "native" ISO comes from the DSLR days where the cameras used a combination of analogue and digital gain (burned into the RAW file) to adjust ISO. Because of this some ISOs had more and some had less dynamic range, and the "native" one was one with the most DR. On Red cameras ISO is non-clipping digital gain that just re-distributes sensor code values and hence in that sense they're all "native" as having the same identical DR. What we do instead is suggest a "starting point" ISO where we find the camera performs well in typical shooting conditions.

Graeme
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Aha! I was kinda right. Kinda....
 
Thank you Graeme for the amazing explanation! Post this everywhere! :))


Graeme Nattress said:
RAW view has a locked image. We're moving that feature over to "log view" which is more useful and responds to ISO.

FYI RAW view isn't really a raw view and gives no indication of "native" ISO. You can't really view RAW data - we tried on Frankie R&D camera and Jarred will recount the tales of fun trying to shoot like that! Not fun at all. So RAW view gave a fixed gain, fixed colour temp view in log.

The term "native" ISO comes from the DSLR days where the cameras used a combination of analogue and digital gain (burned into the RAW file) to adjust ISO. Because of this some ISOs had more and some had less dynamic range, and the "native" one was one with the most DR. On Red cameras ISO is non-clipping digital gain that just re-distributes sensor code values and hence in that sense they're all "native" as having the same identical DR. What we do instead is suggest a "starting point" ISO where we find the camera performs well in typical shooting conditions.

Graeme
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Graeme Nattress said:
The term "native" ISO comes from the DSLR days where the cameras used a combination of analogue and digital gain (burned into the RAW file) to adjust ISO. Because of this some ISOs had more and some had less dynamic range, and the "native" one was one with the most DR. On Red cameras ISO is non-clipping digital gain that just re-distributes sensor code values and hence in that sense they're all "native" as having the same identical DR. What we do instead is suggest a "starting point" ISO where we find the camera performs well in typical shooting conditions.

Graeme
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damn I just re - read that in the rules of engagement book the other day. thanks for that.
 
Graeme Nattress said:
RAW view has a locked image. We're moving that feature over to "log view" which is more useful and responds to ISO.

FYI RAW view isn't really a raw view and gives no indication of "native" ISO. You can't really view RAW data - we tried on Frankie R&D camera and Jarred will recount the tales of fun trying to shoot like that! Not fun at all. So RAW view gave a fixed gain, fixed colour temp view in log.

The term "native" ISO comes from the DSLR days where the cameras used a combination of analogue and digital gain (burned into the RAW file) to adjust ISO. Because of this some ISOs had more and some had less dynamic range, and the "native" one was one with the most DR. On Red cameras ISO is non-clipping digital gain that just re-distributes sensor code values and hence in that sense they're all "native" as having the same identical DR. What we do instead is suggest a "starting point" ISO where we find the camera performs well in typical shooting conditions.

Graeme
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Finally! I'm tired of people telling me why RAW is not chosen, and blame me for not shooting RAW lol.
 
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