Is there a PROBLEM connecting Red-One to HD PC Monitor ??

[George D.]

When shooting in a studio with your Red-One, is there a problem connecting it up to an external HD PC monitor for viewing by others, while at the same time, having the Red LCD showing the image as well ?? If the PC monitor is connected via the HDMI port on the camera, I can't see why there would be a problem, but I just want to make sure.

I was told at one time, that it is not a good idea to do that. Is that true? If true, what harm could it do?

Thanks.

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[nigelsmith]

Generally works fine, depending on the monitor.
certainly woudln't harm the camera in any way.
I had to use an HDMI to DVI lead, as some monitors wouldn't display the HDMI image - something to do with HDCP 'handshakes'.
Found an old Dell that works fine now.

Nigel

 

[jimhare]

Hi George,

Definitely works great and exactly what you should be doing. Most DVI/computer monitors that are 24" or larger will work perfectly.

Smaller monitors may work but most smaller ones have limited resolutions and don't line up with the 720p signal from the Red One.

DELL and BENQ have always worked great for me but as long as the monitor shows the image, you'll be fine.

There is a menu setting in the Red One that switches between DVI and HDMI you will need to locate and play with. Otherwise it will look completely wrong.

Jim

 

[Stephen Pruitt]

I found it very difficult to find a small computer monitor that worked well with the RED One. However, every single one of the cheapie small LCD TVs that we tried (and we took our RED into Best Buy to do these tests, by the way!) worked perfectly via HDMI.

What's more, the HDMI 1080p TV sets allow you to change the RED from 720 to 1080 on the HDSDI output and play back in 1080p. But you will definitely NOT want to shoot with the monitor set at 1080p, as it doesn't show the appropriate field of view on the monitor in that setting during shooting or monitoring. . . ONLY on playback.

Stephen

 

[Tom Greenberg]

Stephen, do I understand correctly that you are coming out of the RED One HDSDI and then converting to HDMI using some sort of converter, like the Blackmagic Design or AJA? Does the HDSDI output change during record and show different framing or field of view?

 

[Stephen Pruitt]

Hi there, Tom. . .

No. . . we went straight from the RED's HDMI port to the monitor. Some computer monitors use HDMI as well as or in lieu of HDSDI. I have never used HDSDI at all (although a friend of mine borrowed the camera and did so). We just run from the HDMI out to the TV. . . works like magic.



Okay, as to the framing issue, when the camera is set to 1080p on HDSDI playback (which also controls the HDMI), the field of view shown on the RED's monitors is NOT the same on camera playback through the EVF or the LCD as it is on the HDMI output. Indeed, the image is dramatically cropped. It does fine on RECORDING (WYSIWYG), but as soon as you move to playback, the field of view on the RED's EVF and/or LCD is quite a bit different from the recorded signal which will be played back (correctly) at 1080p on your external HDMI or HDSDI monitor.

Hope this helps.

Stephen

 

[George D.]

Hi there, Tom. . .

No. . . we went straight from the RED's HDMI port to the monitor. Some computer monitors use HDMI as well as or in lieu of HDSDI. I have never used HDSDI at all (although a friend of mine borrowed the camera and did so). We just run from the HDMI out to the TV. . . works like magic.



Okay, as to the framing issue, when the camera is set to 1080p on HDSDI playback (which also controls the HDMI), the field of view shown on the RED's monitors is NOT the same on camera playback through the EVF or the LCD as it is on the HDMI output. Indeed, the image is dramatically cropped. It does fine on RECORDING (WYSIWYG), but as soon as you move to playback, the field of view on the RED's EVF and/or LCD is quite a bit different from the recorded signal which will be played back (correctly) at 1080p on your external HDMI or HDSDI monitor.

Hope this helps.

Stephen

"....as soon as you move to playback, the field of view on the RED's EVF and/or LCD is quite a bit different from the recorded signal which will be played back (correctly) at 1080p on your external HDMI or HDSDI monitor."

If that is true, what good is it to have an official "Red" LCD Monitor? It would be better to have some other brand or type of monitor that does not crop like that. How can you be sure you got your shot, if you cannot verify framing, etc.?

I don't like that at all.

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[Stephen Pruitt]

An official "RED" LCD and/or EVF is ESSENTIAL for anything except studio work. In the field, there are a lot of times (the vast majority, in fact) where connecting an external LCD monitor is neither possible nor desirable.

And let's be clear: The LCD and EVF work perfectly when set to 720p (their normal setting). The 1080p setting for external playback is just icing on the monitoring cake. In truth, I can't really tell the difference when the external monitor is set at 720p and 1080p. It looks great in both cases. I just wanted to point out that, with TVs (and some computer monitors), it is, indeed, possible to get a 1080p signal for monitoring if it is absolutely essential.

Stephen

 

[George D.]

An official "RED" LCD and/or EVF is ESSENTIAL for anything except studio work. In the field, there are a lot of times (the vast majority, in fact) where connecting an external LCD monitor is neither possible nor desirable.

And let's be clear: The LCD and EVF work perfectly when set to 720p (their normal setting). The 1080p setting for external playback is just icing on the monitoring cake. In truth, I can't really tell the difference when the external monitor is set at 720p and 1080p. It looks great in both cases. I just wanted to point out that, with TVs (and some computer monitors), it is, indeed, possible to get a 1080p signal for monitoring if it is absolutely essential.

Stephen

Hi Stephen,

If you're working in the field, I don't see why it is "ESSENTIAL" to use a Red LCD if you are using the EVF for focus, framing, and tracking the subject. The only use the LCD monitor would have in that case, is for playback or rough framing, and any number of 3rd party brands would work fine for that.

I'm just trying to find out why a "Red LCD" is mandatory if you're using the Original or Bomb EVF for critical work.

Thanks.

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[Stephen Pruitt]

Please note the "and/or" in my comments above.

Stephen