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Is resolution THAT important?

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Let me guess... the OP of this thread? That is what I was thinking when I first read his/her post. Smelled like troll :)
 
It seemed like a dumb question to ask on here of all places. Homie should've known we're 4k freaks! "Is resolution that important?" Come on! Get outta here with that BS! Go buy a Bloggie!
 
Jannard said:
We just figured out we had a competitor posting here as a "ghost". His account was terminated.

Jim
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Lol. That was the first thing I thought when I saw his OP. No one had responded at that time and I was going to answer, "Great first post. How long have you worked for ****?", but decided not to!
 
Jannard said:
Additionally, there is a feature film being released (shot in Germany) that is being advertised as shot with the Alexa. Truth is, all the VFX plates were shot on a RED ONE MX for reasons you might imagine.

Jim
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... which leads us to the question .... Why wouldn´t any producer / director in his right mind decide on shooting the whole movie as such .... ?


... especially coming from a post / value creating / finishing perspective ....
It makes no sense to accept anything lesser than 4k ....

... which i figured already in the later 90´ies when doing "creative" print post production ...
every pixel matters, every pixel counts.

no matter how small the final printed result is (as both in offset or film) ... the finer grid of pixels allows for finer subtle changes in color and make composites and "creative looks" work ...

... and the better the "digital master", the better all compression algorithms work.

So, i am in to shoot even my web movies on epic ... hehe ... :-)
let me just focus on the "other details" for a moment ...
 
Jannard said:
Sanjin... stop driving me crazy... :-)

We offered a mechanical shutter program and didn't get one email of interest. All we needed was 10 orders at $40K each, it would still put EPIC at less money than any of the competition. Please send us your deposit and we'll get right on it... assuming we get 9 more.

Jim
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Jannard said:
Sanjin... stop driving me crazy... :-)

We offered a mechanical shutter program and didn't get one email of interest. All we needed was 10 orders at $40K each, it would still put EPIC at less money than any of the competition. Please send us your deposit and we'll get right on it... assuming we get 9 more.

Jim
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Jim I totally agree.

But also RED should try to drive crazy the competition just with the same things that they are doing right now.

It's simply to offer rotating shutter for $40.000 to anybody who would need it.

The examples of the prices from Alexa Studio and Sony F65 at the pictures below:

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It's all a big game but if you don't enter in time also can be possible to loose it at the end.
 
I always knew Red was the way to go. But I lagged on the equipment side and concentrated on the Directing/Writing/Acting side at the time. When I finally started to acquire equipment and run some test edits. Some thing as simple as motion tracking or stabilizing a shot, I saw HD wasn't enough. Not to mention 4K just looks Sexy!
 
... most people work in a set of compromises and justify it in all kind of ways.

Some don´t.

When Ted came to Rome, to present the EPIC prototype, i drove down 200 miles on my last cent, just to say hi and see "the thing" coming alive ...
... that we agreed we´ve been waiting to happen for the last 20 years!

great memories ....

... at the end, personally, i dont care to much if ARRI or SONY or CANON or whoever is making a 4k camera ... it´s only good news ... lol ....


With the ONE and EPIC, RED has answered my dreams from the later 90´ies ...

RED are the first that got it.
i believe in originators, problem solvers, mad scientists .... ;-) .... not in the copy cats.

Farewell, ghost ... hehe ...
 
well, 85K and 100K pricing is completely ridiculous. Say what you want about Pirates 4, but as a cinema audience member I thought it looked good and was on par quality wise to everything big budget Hollywood shot digitally until now.

This type of elitist pricing is just absolutely ridiculous. I'm glad Red came into the market with a 17.5K Red One. And I'm glad that with that and the Red revolution Sony went from 150K to 100K. But please Red, lately your prices have only gone up. I couldn't afford a Red One back then, but could afford a 17.5K camera now. Please remember were you came from Jim and Jarred. Please remember that you were in the indie filmmaker world before. And please give us that tool that will truly democratize filmmaking.

The camera we want is later this year. We hear you. But make sure you revolutionize the sub 20K market like you did the high end one. Canon is coming, and while I would love to go Red, my budget is limited. The EPic is the camera I want, but I just can't get it.

Please make that "explosion" something truly revolutionary not just for the Epic M or X crowd!
 
If you want a mechanical shutter, it looks like the Sony is a way better deal. Our future releases will address something much different.

Jim

Sanjin Jukic said:
Jim I totally agree.

But also RED should try to drive crazy the competition just with the same things that they are doing right now.

It's simply to offer rotating shutter for $40.000 to anybody who would need it.

The examples of the prices from Alexa Studio and Sony F65 at the pictures below:

It's all a big game but if you don't enter in time also can be possible to loose it at the end.
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One thing I think people forget. Red is dedicated to the filmaker and photographer. To all the other Companies, filmaking, and photography is a novelty market. Just another demographic. Look at all the products they offer and are working on. Not only that, Red created products that exceeded the standard years ago, and they offered it for a tenth of the cost of the nearest competitor. I sound like I work for Red, I know. I don't.

But I work with a small group of filmakers, and we function off of the same workflow. So "Yes" I had to sell why we needed to make Red the weapon of choice. Plus I ain't rich so I have to know that my money is well spent. Clearly I know it will be. Stick a fork in it! This thread is done!
 
Apparently PJ, Soderbergh, Fincher, Schwartzman, Wolski, Ridley Scott and a ton of others agree with you. Not one of them has asked for a mechanical shutter. Imagine that.

Jim

Eston Diaz said:
One thing I think people forget. Red is dedicated to the filmaker and photographer. Look at all the products they offer and are working on. Not only that, they created products that exceeded the standard years ago, and they offered it for a tenth of the cost of the nearest competitor. I sound like I work for them, I know. But I work with a small group of filmakers, and we function off of the same workflow. So "Yes" I had to sell why we needed to make Red the weapon of choice. Plus I ain't rich so I have to know that my money is well spent. Clearly I know it will be. Stick a fork in it! This thread is done!
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Try IMAX-ing with 1080P.

Jim
 
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