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  • Hey all, just changed over the backend after 15 years I figured time to give it a bit of an update, its probably gonna be a bit weird for most of you and i am sure there is a few bugs to work out but it should kinda work the same as before... hopefully :)

Is RedCine the only way possible to convert Red Raw media?

Appleton said:
Rob, what would you be looking at for when onlining 1080p/2K for colour grading and finishing RED footage ?

Scratch obviously is a good choice, and if it could somehow be competitively bundled with REDCINE, you'd have a winner.

Maybe NAB will answer the question ? Finishing software is one part of the puzzle I'm still working out. Thanks.
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SCRATCH is alot more expensive than the RED ONE CAMERA, so you are not going to see that bundled with REDCINE. My opinion, having just added it to our facility, it's worth every penny. But it is a very, very high end tool. More firepower and features than many folks need. So, it might be interesting for the Assimilate folks to consider a leaner/limited version for RED USERS with upgrade path to the full app - what do you think Lucas & Nacho?

I'm sure Apple will add color features or a "color room" to FCP since they "acquired" staff & technology from Silicon Color (Final Touch) - and they have been lagging behind the color tools in the Avid Nitris for while now -

In the meantime -

Stu's plug-in COLORISTA is really great way to kick FCP up a notch or two -
and it's a whopping $200 - http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magicbulletcolorista.html

available today -
 
offhollywood said:
SCRATCH is alot more expensive than the RED ONE CAMERA,
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It is more expensive than the camera, but only if put together with a lot of modules. You can have a version of SCRATCH without all the bells/buzzers/whistles for less than the price of the camera... but also without color correction.

offhollywood said:
So, it might be interesting for the Assimilate folks to consider a leaner/limited version for RED USERS with upgrade path to the full app - what do you think Lucas & Nacho?
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I think it's a pretty good idea... I don't just hang out here because I'm casually interested... ;)

Lucas
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Decider of Things
Assimilate, Inc.
Los Angeles
 
Interesting. Nice rundown offHollywood. I'd prefer a separate set of colour tools, rather than an integrated NLE one. NAB should be intersting, in that aspect.

luki said:
I think it's a pretty good idea... I don't just hang out here because I'm casually interested... ;)

Lucas
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Decider of Things
Assimilate, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Count me as "seriously interested", Lucas.:)
 
Scratch is a fantastic system. I have to add that I'm not a colorist so I'm not intimately familiar with all the post (color) software available. I'm starting to learn and play, but it's not my area of expertise. That would be programming :)
 
Indeed Scratch is very powerful and stable. It's the sort of program that if you know you need it, then you need it, and it will do exactly what you want. The trick is to see if that's the case. If so, it will serve you well and be good value for money.

Graeme
 
Häakon said:
But there's no question that Apple's suite has become a very popular one, and given the Red team's preference for it, I will probably be migrating down that path at some point this year.
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Yes, my feelings as well. A couple reasons why;

-I spend way too much time helping my clients run their FCP setups, answering questions about a NLE I don't own or know (which I find they know even less than I, yet and consider themselves very up to speed).

-Just yesterday I was setting up my CC session with a colorist who uses Final Touch... and guess what NLE runs in conjunction with that? It ain't Vegas or Edius...

So, the RED is a mighty enough camera to chase the platform and NLE preferences of those who are making it.
 
Rob and Graeme, do you have any opinion on the Synthetic Aperture (Color Finesse 2.1 HD+ -- HD/2K Resolution)? And BTW, vs. the Assimilate product?

EDIT -- BTW, also for you Jim! Do you have any idea on this?
 
MikeCurtis said:
Emanuel - Color Finesse is decent, but check out the new Colorista - I suspect it will be a more interesting solution. Uses GPU acceleration and other goodies, available for a ton of different apps all in one license.
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Have you had time to put it through its paces yet?
I've been looking at color finesse for a while.
is there anything that gives you some of Shakes colorhandling in FCP (adding basic grading from one image to another through a sample area)?

Yep. Know it can be done in FCP. Just soooo easy in Shake...

Gunleik
 
Have you tried Conduit? Not as comprehensive as Shake, but it is Nodal image processing in 32-bit float, and it's GPU accelerated and works within the FCP timeline. I've found you can do some pretty nice grading with it.

Nick
 
MikeCurtis said:
Emanuel - Color Finesse is decent, but check out the new Colorista - I suspect it will be a more interesting solution. Uses GPU acceleration and other goodies, available for a ton of different apps all in one license.

Blogged on it at:

http://www.hdforindies.com/2006/12/colorista-new-shiznit-for-diy-color_19.html

-mike
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Mike,

Thank you very much for the tip.

Do you think this will handle well the 2k or even the 4k (if available)?

With a similar outcome if compared with Color Finesse?

The Color Finesse 2 HD+ apps is SD, HD, 2k and up. And well, they're saying «Color Finesse is a true 32-bit floating point color corrector, not just "floating point capable" and not in only a few correction tools.». Besides, the synthetic-ap has some credits [LINK].

But this Colorista [LINK1] (or that one also provided for your website LINK2) has an unbeatable price: $200 vs. $1,900 is a substancial difference! I hope you gave me the tip I've been waiting for my route. Although I'd like to have your point of view on a full comparision related all these aspects -- 'cause I'm not coming from the techie side and you've definitely been building a reliable reputation on such poorly-sourced field (but not @yours where your blog is a fine exception!).

Your helpful input is very welcome!

Emanuel :)
 
Emanuel said:
Do you think this will handle well the 2k or even the 4k (if available)?
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Colorista works in hardware, like Final Touch and Scratch, so you'd need a video card capable of holding the 4k image in memory.

Colorista is not a direct replacement for Color Finesse. Colorista is designed to provide an experience as much like operating a Da Vinci or other high-end color system as possible, right within your NLE.

The workflow that I imagine with Colorista and RED is: coloring in realtime in the NLE environment at some reduced resolution (maybe 720p or 1080p), DVCPROHD CoDec, or Sheer, or somethingn else mildly compressed, and then offloading the project to After Effects for 16-bit 4K rendering from the original RAW frames.

More about Colorista [LINK]

-Stu
 
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