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IP Man 3 Movie

Wayne Morellini

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Joy, another IP Man movie, and what a beautiful enthralling action packed movie it was. I'm glad I got to see it on the big screen.

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt2888046/

IP Man was a true life Wing Chun grandmaster that taught Bruce Lee and the man who taught the man that taught me. We are all men. He apparently had many legendary journeys (not that I study these things much) and is the last in a series of legendary masters out of mainland China last century and the century before. Wing Chun is said to be the only style of Kung Fu invented by a woman andbis know for its ease and efficiency. It is said to be the AK-47 of Kung Fu styles, a legendary machine gun. So Wing Chun is up there with the best of them, but the art moves on, who knows what is best now.

The movie was well shot. Some parts, such as the sword fight showed accelerated motion a little bit much, but those things are too dangerous to do normally. Even if you rehearse to filmic like perfection, there is the element of mistake that would wreck filming and lives, so not an issue.

I was expecting an older much slower 50-70+ IP Man account, but turned out to be very high action and tensity with a lot of emotional beauty as this series maintains.

I have seen two or three accounts of IP Man's life, and the differences in portrayal are interesting. Things are left out in each account that are in the other accounts. In this one, the big boss, played by Mike Tyson, is absent from the other accounts I have seen. But some of the events surrounding it might explain why it was absent in the others (apart from the volume of material in this life). There might be a several years series worth. As in the other one or two series, he seems to have a problem fighting big western bruisers, so the outcomes might not.be desirable to include. Personal hardening and muscle coverage offers a lot of protection, however maiming is still easy, but the character was the sort that would not like to maim somebody for little reason. Avoiding maiming is not something western fighting was particularly skilled in in that way. However, in the last fight, against another opponent, he uses a basic move I was taught the first night to defeat him, that he could have used against the big boss. I also question a lot of right scenes (in most Chinese movies) as it has reverted to Chinese Theatre rather than the cinema Bruce Lee sort. I mean, if you have 20-30 guys that want to keep coming back to kill you you need to work your way through them in such a way that you hurt them such as they wont come back. Maybe it is the thing of the friendly fight, which is OK when they aren't trying to kill you and come back and eventually succeed. The character in the film puts it succinctly, that the rich and powerful won't inherit the Earth, but "The Pure in Heart". This summarised the IP Man character perfectly. I might be somewhat patient if I were him, but not that patient.

All together I was nearly in tears in parts of this movie.
 
99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of what you see on the screen regarding Ip Man is 100% made up. He was not even 1/1000th of the legend that the films make him out to be and his association with Bruce Lee was not as big as the movies often depict, as the two were only in close proximity for a short time before Lee moved to Murica. The only notable thing about their association is that Lee is reputed to have been one of the few students - Ip Man never really trained anyone at the time Lee showed up because of his age and alleged health problems from Opium addiction - that received personal instruction from Ip Man, due to his not getting along with other Wing Chun students, who were taught by other instructors at the school. After the success of the first Ip Man film, every Chinese film company tried to cash in due to the lucrative Chinese film market's size, and all sorts of ridiculous Ip Man stories came out of those films, none of which were remotely true.
 
They usually depict very little association between Bruce Lee and Ip Man, which is usually portrayed like Ip Man is treating Bruce like you said about the students. He attended for 2-3 years I think, maybe several. The association is that he took Wing Chun training as a basis that he developed further.

L, in which may 100% made up? In major or minor story or how it is portrayed? Most movies are largely made up, so more importantly is how true the underlying story is. Quantify which ones are true, because there are a number I doubt because of the logistics of the story directions. Actually, which was the original? I've noticed a number of statements in this film.that seem retrospective sf serving statements. Probkem is, where there is a gap people add crap, and some people just can't help themselves (which really p me off) to the point of perverting what little truth is there. However, the statement about the pure in heart sucintly sums up the character'saction in all films.

Wasn't the opium from some treatment?

I don't need an argument here just clarity.

It would be good to think they could ateast preserve some dignity in a film like this and try to stick to the major story.
 
I'm just saying to myself, ...... unreal, I hope he's right. Because that is a pretty big way to crash a thread, and most people that tell me stuff are wrong so I have to verify what they say.

I have seen probably the first film series with older IP man, and that spinning table top.scene in the cafe (one of the most unrealistically outlandish things I've seen apart from theater style, something Jackie Chan would be proud of), the one purported to be from his sons perspextivey, and this one with the much more youthful IP Man though he would be around 60 by the end of it. Which parts are more real and which series L? Or are you saying its all "Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Slayer" and "National Treasure".
 
Regardless of whether or not the story is made up. I don't think it matters. IP Man is just a fantastic kung fu movie, a genre which often is terrible. the ratio of good kung fu films to bad ones is so disproportionate. IP Man stands out from the lot because it has a great story, the characters have very clear/ strong motivations, the cinematography is on point and the choreography is unique. IP Man to me stands along side some of the best kung fu movies ever made like Enter the Dragon, Ong-Bak and Drunken Master II. You don't watch a kung fu movie for the realism you watch it for the action. Though I will admit that there is a point when cable fighting takes over and things become absurd like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.
 
Theatre. Truely they are great kungfu movies Rusty. But you watch realism for realism, what's the point of watching something true if it isn't. I might as well make a "True" story where secretly I was mind controlling Steve Jobs, and Bill Gates from a mind control device inserted in them from the future by Render the Robot, after I invented it now and they eventually built it and brought it back in time, before I invented it. I can find fictional films like that. I think we should keep reality, real enough.
 
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